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 Posted: Fri Sep 12th, 2008 08:24 pm
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Souzko .. don't let any of those red maples or leaves in your pasture!  If your horse even ingests a few of the leaves once they have started to change color and wilt, it will kill him!

Thanks for the reminder.  I did know that but, the tree is on my neighbors property so nothing I can do.  I plan to leaf blow the area, but know I won't be able to keep up with every single leaf.



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We have been taken over by tramp weed. It is an awful thing to have. Spreads like wildfire and leaves nothing behind but bare spots. The treatment is the same as you mentioned ~ 2-4-D now because once you actually see it . . . it is too late to stop it. These weeds for us are a product of the past years of drought I think.



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Ruuhzoo:  our pasture guy says the best way to control weeds is to strengthen your grass.  So, I'd recommend that you overseed right away after weed kill and not wait until spring; maybe even weed and feed in spring to give it a good head start and try to crowd out any other weed seeds that may be there.  Good luck - we are in the same process of killing the bad stuff and reseeding to improve - only with a different set of weeds. 



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I already had our county agricultural extension agent out.  He had a different name for it, but said it was a invasive plant from the east - Polynesia, I believe.  At his recommendation, we cross fenced our pasture so we could cut of access to half of it at a time.  We just started spraying with an herbicide he recommended that does have the 2-4-D in it.  (I double checked when I got home yesterday).  I hope we can save what grass we already have in the pasture and not have to re-seed in the spring.  We "spot" sprayed some to test before we started broadcasting it and it started turning brown in 2 days, so I hope it works.  We did Weed and Seed in the spring in the south pasture and it retarded the growth for a couple of months, but it is back.  The north pasture (which didn't have any so we didn't weed and seed, only fertilize) is worse now and is where we are spraying first.   Our ag agent recommends that you spray herbicide in like February when the seeds that are in the ground are starting to wake up and grow, before the actual plants start emerging.  We waited until April to Weed and Seed and that was obviously too late.  With our temps here, things start growing much earlier.  Good Luck and let's keep each other posted. 

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I went by Crop Production Services this morning and they confirmed that it is chamber bitters.  They said the best thing is the 2-4-D.  So I bought a gallon of concentrate. You mix 3 oz to a gallon of water.  I will be putting it out in the next day or so.  They did say to keep the horses and other livestock off of it for 7 days.  That is going to be a little inconvenient since I only have the one pasture, but if that's what it takes to get rid of this stuff then that is what I'll do. 

I'll let you know how well it works, as soon as I know something.



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It is extremely invasive.  I did not know it can spread from the roots.  We have been mowing and mowing our pasture this summer and it just seems to spread more.  I guess that is why.  Have never tried any 2-4 D but will certainly try.  Weed B Gone did a fair job on it.  I didn't want to use Roundup because I didn't want to kill the grass either.  Thanks for the info. 

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Your right Ruuhzoo.  My husband came in from work today and told me he had talked with a landscaper and was told they are called "chamber bitters", but are often mistaken for mimosa.  He recommended something called 2-4-D to kill them and it is not supposed to damage the grass.  I am going to go into town tomorrow and check at the Farmers Crop Production Service for this 2-4-D stuff.

This landscaper also told him mowing them did no good because they will just spread out from the bottom.  Well, DUH!!  I have been telling him that all summer. ::)

 



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Souzko .. don't let any of those red maples or leaves in your pasture!  If your horse even ingests a few of the leaves once they have started to change color and wilt, it will kill him!



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It's not a mimosa.  It is a very invasive nuisance plant called oriental something.  It is taking over one of my pastures as well.  Round-up is the only thing that seems to phase it.  Please call your county extension agent for more information.  It is rampant here in North Florida. 

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I had a similar problem with my neighbors red maple sending seeds in my paddock. Took me three days but, I weeded ever #%*# one out of there. 

 



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Yes, I have noticed that they do not handle drought well.  A week or so without rain and they will start to wilt, but as soon as the rain comes they perk right back up.

I guess every climate has it's thorns, huh. :?



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Ah, and to think I love my Mimosa trees because they are tough enough to take our hot central valley summers without complaint.  And their prolific blooms smell so sweet and wonderful.  They take a long time to grow here in hot dry N. California Central Valley.  The seedlings I planted 8 years ago are only 8-12 feet tall.  However, I can see that they could become rampant in a more conducive climate as they produce thousands of seed pods!  Every once in a while, I will see a volunteer, but mostly, unless they are tended in this climate with adequate water, the few seedlings that do sprout die.  They are a messy tree, but oddball me loves the eight  I have growing on my property!  Now the hybrid poplars on the other hand and those damn suckers they send up everywhere...



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Yes, mowing!  I spent most of the day yesterday mowing.  I have been trying to mow about every other week in hopes that they will die back.  Hopefully, it will get cold enough this winter to kill them, but it won't start cooling off much here for another couple of months.  So, I will keep mowing and try to get rid of any adult trees in the area that they are seeding from.

I love crepe myrtles and dogwoods, also.  I have several crepe myrtles and the woods are full of dogwoods.  They do great here.  Both of these seed little sprouts, but usually right around the base of the tree, so they are easy to pull up and don't cause a problem.  Actually, I have started all of my crepe myrtles from little sprouts that my mom pulled up from around hers.



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We had a large, mature mimosa tree in our front yard in St. Louis, MO when I was growing up (40-45 years ago).  I loved it and I don't remember it free-seeding there either.  Of course, we had winters and snow, so maybe that's the trick. 

I also love crepe myrtles.  I planted a few in my yard in St. Louis just to see if they would tolerate our cold.  When we moved, they seemed to be doing okay.  But, since we've been back and go by the old house, the ones in the front yard are gone.  Maybe, they didn't survive.  I'd love to plant both here in Idaho but I'm pretty sure they are moisture lovers and living in our high desert plateau probably wouldn't be condusive to their survival. 



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I LOVE Crepe Myrtle trees, I stopped at a nursery today to see if there were any new varieties.  There was one at Lowes the other day called a white chocolate,  it had the dark burgendy leaves instead of green .   I really like the Reds that are a deep deep burgendy.  

I did not know when I started buying them a few years back they can come in different heights,  I thought they were all about a 12-15 ft tree,   so thats what I hope I have and not any dwarfs below that height.



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Spotd, you can probably have a Mimosa in your yard without this trouble. Mimosa may be weedy in some areas but it's not a terrible invader like kudzu.  In our area it does not reseed as wildly as it does in a friendly, warm-all-the-time climate like Florida (USDA Zone 9-11).  We have Winters in the 0 degree range (USDA Zone 6), and they do not cause too much trouble.  There is a new variety in nurseries that's a dark red/brown, called Chocolate Mimosa.

They grow fast to 30 ft. tall and wide at maturity and their Summer pink bloom is beautiful.  With the right placement, they can be remarkable.  My reading tells me that sprouts can be killed with repeated cutting (mowing). Maybe if the cutting blade were set low in those areas?

Old Gardeners say:  Any plant that grows where you don't want it is a weed....



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And I wanted to transplant a Mimosa tree to my yard !   Guess they are like the Yucca bush that once it takes root more just keep coming and the only way to get rid of those pain in the butts is a backhoe, or do like I did move away and leave the sucker there and don't bring another home.



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Here are a few pictures.

This is the grown tree that resides at the end of the driveway.  It blooms with pretty, pink flowers in the early summer.  My DH said he would cut it down after it bloomed, but hasn't gotten around to it.  I will definitely make sure it is at the top of his list this weekend.

This mimosa tree is well over 10 foot tall.  I did not get the whole tree in the picture.



This is an up close of one branch.



And here is a shot of the infamous seedlings.



 

I appreciate you sending me the link with the description because I did not know that the tag-alongs (what we have always called them) were from the mimosa.  It was something that was picked up in the woods on horse, person or dogs all my life, that required much patience in extracting from hair and fur.  Since I have been removing some from Mystic's face recently, I now know I need to search the woods around the barnyard for another mimosa tree. 

 

 



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Sounds like 'pickin' party to me! When we're done there we can all go to my house and start on the creeping charlie.::)

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Brenda, that is funny!  l1   I was so confused at how you could indulge on a mimosa, as my stone age internet connection sloooowly opened the link.  I have to say I would rather be indulging in them than pulling them.

Karal, that fits it pretty close, must be in the same family.  It has the fern like leaves and pretty, pink flowers and fits the seed and pod description, but is not prickly. 

I only thought we had one grown one (that DH promised to cut down this weekend), but I have seen the sticky little seeds stuck to my geldings face, so there must be another hiding in the woods that I didn't find.  I will have to go hunting.

I will take a picture today and get it posted.

And hey, if anyone wants some mimosa, come on over and we will have a mimosa party.  Maybe throw some steaks on the grill and after pulling up all you want we may even indulge in some.



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