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| Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2012 02:23 pm |
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mytwh G.O.G Community Member
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I do worry about abscess. When she was 1 year old she had terrible hoof care and got a pebble in her hoof. She ended up with a pretty big abscess. I hope this never happens again.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2012 12:50 am |
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Lakota Ranch Hand 
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Ya, she mighta just got sore. My Paso can gait on gravel roads and be just fine. One time though she must've stepped on a stone just right and limped for three steps. I stopped her and checked the foot, it was clean and there was a spot of blood the size of a pea. I wiped it off and no more came out. We rode home without any more limping, but for 5 days she was lame in her pasture.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2012 12:17 am |
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mytwh G.O.G Community Member
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I do ride with the 4Beat saddle. I love it. Also she has different kind of terran in her pasture. There is alot of gravel because at on time it had a house on the property and the driveway is still there. I keep her hay ring around to where she has to walk over it all the time. I have grass and dirt (sandy areas) that she has to walk over also. I think we have pretty much every senerio. I am going to use my Easy Boot Epics for awhile until she is better. She already seems to be feeling better.
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| Posted: Thu May 31st, 2012 09:01 pm |
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NOELLEE G.O.G Community Member 
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Lakota wrote: I had a massage therapist come and do a treatment on my horses once. She told me to get one of those round rubber "curry's" with the multiple nubs/fingers on it. Said if I massage in a circular motion over the neck/chest/shoulder/back/rump/leg muscles before and after every ride that I would never need to call her out again. It would keep them from ever getting sore deep down again. (Kinda shot herself in the foot for future business, but she is all about the horses well being.) Ha, love it! Exactly what I do, and sometimes when I cold hose them after a ride I do this with pure lavendar soap. They do feel good. I agreed about pinpointing the cause of soreness as Lakota suggests. So many reasons, and a gaited horse in comfort from bit to saddle to feet is a joy to ride  .
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| Posted: Thu May 31st, 2012 08:59 pm |
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TheBlaze G.O.G Community Member 
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Mytwh, that's good to hear about your trimmer! I'm currently a student at the Equine Sciences Academy, a school that uses Pete Ramey's methods among others. I'm certainly a huge advocate for the natural barefoot trim! Lakota is right, as usual. She could be tender from being ridden on ground that is different from the type of terrain she is kept on. Also, it could be a stone bruise. But, talk to your trimmer. I'm sure he's a great resource!
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| Posted: Thu May 31st, 2012 08:15 pm |
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Lakota Ranch Hand
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Are you certain if she was sore in her muscles, or sore in her feet? If it's her feet, she might be tender if she doesn't have the type of terrain in her pasture that toughens up her feet on a daily basis....? Then the long ride on rocky terrain made her tender. Use of boots next time should prevent this. If it's her muscles, she could be young and not in condition for it. Or, it could be that a rigid tree saddle caused her to get sore. Do you ride in a 4-Beat? If so, then this isn't the case. I had a massage therapist come and do a treatment on my horses once. She told me to get one of those round rubber "curry's" with the multiple nubs/fingers on it. Said if I massage in a circular motion over the neck/chest/shoulder/back/rump/leg muscles before and after every ride that I would never need to call her out again. It would keep them from ever getting sore deep down again. (Kinda shot herself in the foot for future business, but she is all about the horses well being.)
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| Posted: Thu May 31st, 2012 07:15 pm |
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mytwh G.O.G Community Member
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NOELLEE, Thank you. I do hope this is what it is. She is very lazy, and I had to make her keep within eyes distance from the others. Which we were always behind because I wanted her to stay slow. It took alot out of her just doing this. I had to push on her alot. Very nice calm mare, but very lazy.
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| Posted: Thu May 31st, 2012 07:06 pm |
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NOELLEE G.O.G Community Member
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mytwh wrote: TShe was pretty tired. She is young and I shouldn't of done that to her. She's not quite 4 yet, (August). At 4yrs old, she could tend to be more trotty (or pacey) than gaiting steady. So yes, she could be sore from the workouts she got having to work a gait slower and not trot to keep up. I would feel for heat... all over the hoof, and all over the legs and shoulders and body. Pay attention to where the warmer areas are and that may clue you in where she is sore. Then give her a nice cold hosing, lol... and a massaging lavendar bath. Last edited on Thu May 31st, 2012 07:07 pm by NOELLEE |
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| Posted: Thu May 31st, 2012 04:00 pm |
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mytwh G.O.G Community Member
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Thanks for chiming in. Yes he is a natural horse trimmer. He went to school to study the Pete Ramey and Jamie Jackson way ot trimming. I'm not real sure the trim made her sorel. This past weekend we had a big event with the Spotted Saddle Horse club of Arkansas. My mare is real trotty and when we rode with the rest I kept her in a slow gait more than she ever has. I think I over done with her that weekend. She was pretty tired. She is young and I shouldn't of done that to her. She's not quite 4 yet, (August). Is it possible she could be sore from muscle memory. (Easier to trot than gait?)
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| Posted: Thu May 31st, 2012 02:22 pm |
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TheBlaze G.O.G Community Member
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Sherry, yes, dead sole will slough off. But, I gently scrape if off when I trim making sure to leave live sole alone. Your horse should never be lame or sore after a trim. If soreness occurs something is being done wrong. Of course we all make mistakes. But, if it occurs on a regular basis make sure to let your farrier know and maybe he can make adjustments. A couple of questions: Are you using a traditional farrier or a barefoot hoof trimmer? If it is a farrier does he practice a natural barefoot trim? Because a trim from a farrier is far different from a natural barefoot trim. If your farrier is not practicing a natural barefoot trim this could be the reason you are not getting a concave sole. With the natural barefoot trim the heels need to be low enough to the ground so that the frog and sole are making contact with the ground with every step. This process is what causes the wear of the hoof. If the sole is not making contact with the ground it will not shed naturally.
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| Posted: Thu May 31st, 2012 02:04 pm |
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mytwh G.O.G Community Member
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Thank you so much, it makes me feel better hearing this. My farrier is doing all the things you talked about. He is coming out today to see if she has any bruising. He told me the dead sole will slough off. Thanks Sherry
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| Posted: Thu May 31st, 2012 06:39 am |
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Lakota Ranch Hand
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I never take any sole out with the hoof knife unless I absolutely have to (which is pretty much never). I sometimes tidy up the bars as needed if they are getting out of shape. Sometimes the frog sheds (once a year or so?) and I'll tidy it up if I have to. If you don't rasp off the flares, they will get worse, I don't worry if the wall ends up being very thin there. It may eventually break out, but in the long run you will get rid of the flare. Keep the heels kinda low. I like to rasp the ground surface of the toe down to the sole, back up the heels where I want them, & then rasp down the area between the heels and sole until it's all level. This way I let the sole be my guide to determine toe length. Then I begin to bevel the hoof wall all the way around (much more at the toe and less as you get to the heels). I finish by putting the foot on the hoof stand & give the last licks to the beveling process. If the horse has 'poor' feet, I am a strong believer in Farriers' Formula as one of the best supplements out there. Follow the feeding suggestions and don't cut him back to a maintenance dosage prematurely to try to save money. It's a slow process, but this stuff works. I've been doing my horses feet this way for several years now, and I'm happy with the results. I don't own any hoof boots and always ride barefoot. Sometimes they do bust up a little after riding rocky trails, but they go sound and usually grow back out before I get around to riding trails again. Hoof boots are a good idea though to keep from busting up the hoof wall, and for the horse that isn't yet ground pounding sound. Eventually, the soles do get more concave. One of our horses with the poorest feet had really flat soles. They have gotten more concave over the years, but they are still flatter than our other horses (I wouldn't call him 'flat soled' at this point though). I trim when the horses feet look like they need it and don't really have them on a set schedule. This has worked out well for me, I hope this helps.....
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| Posted: Thu May 31st, 2012 02:22 am |
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mytwh G.O.G Community Member
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Got a question about the bare foot trim on my mare. She has been barefoot for almost a year now, and doing quite well. My question is... Are you supposed to take off the dead sole on the foot to be able to get the cupping of the sole? She seems to be flat footed and has alot of the dead sole on there. Also he left her a little long the last two times he trimmed her. They looked like they were spreading out like a pancake. I had him take her down to where I thought she should be and removed flares. He's not keeping up with the flares either. Anyway I made the mistake of riding her on a trailride the day after. We rode on and off for 2 days. She ended up sore. I feel as if she is having a set back instead of moving forward. I quit doing the 2 or 3 week trim. Now it's up to 4 or 5 weeks between trims. Should I go back to every 2 weeks? I watch videos of the mustang roll on you tube and these horses have a nice cup and mine has none. What do I do? Thought about shoes but I just can't put her through that. I've been using her epics for now. Thanks so much Sherry
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