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 Posted: Thu Mar 7th, 2013 12:06 pm
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karenlexsc
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Ugh Oh, time to hit another yard sale? If you know someone who works for the school district, maybe they could get you one. They toss a lot of computer equipment when they upgrade, which is quite often. I saw a storage facility once that was crammed full of computers, monitors, desks, chairs etc. I was rather appalled at the waste, really. Just a thought.



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Glad you guys could see the vid. My $5.00 garage sale flat screen monitor died & I'm back to using an old style 50lb. monitor that is a little dark to start with & I can't turn up the brightness any more. :(

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Oh, whew, it always makes me feel better when Slipslider sees what I see. Guess I am learning to detect the gaits. :D

LaVonne, I am going to send you a PM.



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I saw a nice slow rack and looks to me like he should be a very nice horse for you as he will only get better.

Hopefully he has arrived and we will soon here updates. Congratulations!



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Congratulations on your new horse!!!. The video was a bit dark so hard to see, but looked like a nice rack to me. He appears nice and calm. Hope you will keep us posted how he does when he get home with you. Maybe some more pics? Fun times are ahead for you!



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Good, sounds great! :)

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He's also very young - he doesn't turn four until May. He looks to be doing a four-beat gait without head tossing or heavy bobbing or sourness (it's definitely not a step-pace), so IMO with some time on the trails I'll think he'll be a great ride.

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Thanks for posting the video clip, but it sure didn't show much. First off it was so dark that I couldn't see the horses' legs or feet. Second, he was just walking. He was barely gaiting on his last pass along the fence, but there's no way to tell what gait he's doing. :(

If you've decided that you are going to get this horse, I hope he is indeed capable of performing a good square evenly timed gait and not a stepping pace. Rider input often times makes a difference too. If these folks aren't skilled at riding a gaited horse, you may get better gaits out of him than they do....

If you are new to gaited horses as well, be sure to read all the articles on the home page that Brenda has written (the ones that scroll on the right side of the page), there is a wealth of knowledge to be had there which will help you get the best out of any gaited horse that you ride.  Good luck! :)

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Here's a video of him gaiting. (Wish they had done it both ways, but oh well.)

http://youtu.be/9hX651tdIek

He passed his pre-purchase exam (and no ASD). Hopefully he'll be here by this weekend!

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Yes, I too would like to see video to evaluate the gait. I also agree with Karen in that the gait is most important to me. If I'm gonna be out there on the horse for 3 hours, anything less than really smooth can start to wear on me and I got a gaited horse so I could enjoy comfort and cover more miles. (But I do want a good lookin' horse too!) :w2

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Okay, I understand about the videos. Would love to see them, if they allowed it.

I know just where you are and I had an Uncle who owned a service station (old Esso station) right at the Bull Run in Manasses. Used to ice skate on Bull Run even when I was young. I grew up on Glebe Rd.

I took riding lessons out in Vienna (before being built up) at a place called Full Cry Riding Academy. Gone now, but wonderful place to learn to ride.
That was in the late 1950's though.

I too am sorry you got hurt. We have two Spotted Saddle Horses with 2 very different gaits. One does a nice flat walk and running walk with alot of head nod, and the other is a racking gait. I have to say of our two I prefer the rack. My advice would be test ride as many as you can, you will know when you find a smooth one. I have to say just by what you told us the KMH sounds like a better choice. How they ride is more important to me than how they look anyday!



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Hi Karen,

I'm by Tysons Corner/West Falls Church Metro, so no boarding around here! I plan to board at the Battlefield Equestrian Center in Centreville, across the street from the Manassas Battlefield public trails. It's a no-fuss facility where all of the horses are turned out together in two 50-60-acre pastures and brought in 2x/day for feeding and observation. New horses are quarantined for two weeks but where the "herd" can see/smell them.

I don't want to link the videos here as the owners sent them to me privately (they are not posted publicly), but if that changes, I will send an update.

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OMG, Diane, I grew up in Arlington! Where in Falls Church are you and are you going to board or have pasture at your house (its so grown up now, I can't think of many places you could...)

Any chance you can link the videos on here, so we can see?



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Update:

The KMH owners sent over links to some short videos of the red chocolate gelding last night. You'd never guess that he isn't yet four-years-old from his behavior ... he's probably a perfect example of the famously laid-back mountain horse personality.

Good news: it is clear from the video that he does a rack, with very small head nod and nice head/neck set. He is ridden in a Tom Thumb-type bit and light rein contact. They didn't send a video of him cantering, and I'm unsure if he is slow, medium, or quick, but he appears to be overweight and unfit at this time.

As luck would have it, a snowstorm is in the forecast for next week, which may squash my plans to drive the 5+ hours to see him in person. In the meantime, I plan to arrange for a pre-purchase vet exam ASAP.

Cheers,
Diane

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Thank you for your comments, Lakota! Greatly appreciated.

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I'll give you my $0.02

A lot of the TWH's have been bred far too pacey because of the big lick show industry. (They breed for more paciness so they can 'square up' the gait when they add the weight & stacks to the front feet.) You may always be fighting to keep that horse from pacing. Imus tack helps a lot, but until you've ridden the horse for several months you just won't know. If a 'gaited horse trainer' works with the horse, he may add heavy shoes to the front feet and get the horse going good. That will not last though, and eventually she'll be back to paciness.

On the other hand, if the trainer uses humane methods he may just need to ride her consistently for a while to show her what's expected gaitwise. There's no way to know for sure until you've had her for several months.

Getting a horse that naturally does the rack is definately the best way to go. You only need to focus on normal horsemanship skills w/o the added hassle of fighting a lousy gait. However, if the sellers don't know EXACTLY what the gaits are (and what this individual horse performs), then they may be calling anything other than a trot a 'rack'.

Get the video and definately go see the horse being ridden, and ride him yourself too. A friend of mine used to have a little spotted saddle horse that would rack well, then she offered me to ride him one day & that horse beat you to death. He didn't appear rough when just watching him, so be sure to always test ride a prospect.

Pretty is as pretty does, so get something that works. Pretty alone won't be an enjoyable partnership. But, if you want pretty AND good gait, they are out there. Take your time and don't settle for something less than just what you want. If you don't have the skills to work on a horses' gait, then your best bet is to get one that already has the even smooth gait you're looking for. Then you can just start enjoying the ride right from the start. You will have to pay more for that kind of horse though 'cause that's what everybody wants. :)

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My 16-year-old mare, Shelby, is also an Ebony Masterpiece granddaughter.  She is very smooth gaited and has a kind personality.



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I've been in the market for my first gaited horse for several months now. I have done a lot of research as the gaited horse world is far different from the hunter/jumper/dressage/carriage driving worlds I'm used to.

I have tried mainly Tennessee Walking and Rocky/Kentucky Mountain Horses, and after driving all over God's green Earth to look at lots of animals, I may have narrowed down my prospects to two:

1) 6-year-old champagne TWH mare. Lovely personality, pretty (almost Arabian-like) head, beautiful color, Natural Horsemanship-trained - those are her pluses. On the negative side, she seems more upright and a bit weak in the hindquarter, and would only pace or cross-canter when ridden. The owner has offered to deduct the cost from his asking price for a 30-day "refresher" with a local, respected gaited horse trainer.

2) 4-year-old red chocolate KMH gelding. I have yet to see him in person but owners have offered to send a video soon. Pro - supposedly naturally racks, conformation looks good in photos, comes from respected RMH/KMH farm. Cons - he appears much stockier and quite overweight. Owner breeds QHs so not sure if he racks or not. He has a kind eye but is not as attractive as the mare.

They are sized and priced about the same.

So my questions to the group:
  1. Do I buy a pretty TWH that needs a little retraining or (if the horse does rack) the maybe-not-so-glamourous and wider KMH?
  2. If I'm not an expert gaited horse rider, do I err on the side of a horse that is "ready to go?"
Thanks for your input/suggestions!

Diane

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Jerry and I both like the Ebony Masterpiece horses too,  Mira's Grandfather is EbonyMasterpiece, so he is up close in her breeding. 



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I have ridden two Peruvian's. One wasn't too bad, and the other is smoother yet, but the SMOOTHEST horse I ever rode was a 15 hand TWH mare that went back to Ebony Masterpiece. When she would rack you never moved. If you pulled your feet out of the stirrups, your toes didn't even jiggle. It was no different than sitting in your recliner at home.

I do agree though that Peruvians are probably the smoothest breed as a whole.:)

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