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 Posted: Mon May 21st, 2012 05:21 pm
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Ok thanks. I understand theory. :-)

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 Posted: Mon May 21st, 2012 05:06 pm
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"he wore a Hackamore for a while but ran off on me with it"


Just rember the bit isnt there to stop the horse it is so you can communicat to the horse that you want to stop . He will need lots of work in a controled enviorment and teaching him to stop with the lightest cue. As i teach the horse to stop when i sit back and verbaly ask him to stop.  Then take up as little preshure as it takes to get him to stop . In time he will learn to stop on you weight shift. Also teach him to "give to pressure" and a "one rein stop" for emergancy brake in run away situations

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 Posted: Mon May 21st, 2012 07:01 am
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Ya, I understand what was done and how it would appear. Just was thinking the bit may have compromised structural integrity after doing it as it appears the d's hold everything together.

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 Posted: Sun May 20th, 2012 09:29 pm
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The snaffle D used to make contact with the chin strap and halt the rotation of the bit (I thought). That is why I removed them because my bridle would buckle at the cheeks. My brother works at a place where they machine parts for race cars so cutting them off wasn't a problem for him. I'll see if I can find a pic of the modification.



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Whatta, I was thinking that the way the bit was assembled that the d's basically held the shank and the purchase together at the mouthpiece. I would've thought your bit may not stay together since you removed them. As far as over-rotating the shank, that is impossible since it is attatched to the bridle and the rein. It will only rotate the mouthpiece as far as the corners of the horses mouth and the curb chain will allow.....

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 Posted: Sun May 20th, 2012 04:37 pm
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GOSH!!!! i wish i knew how to use a bit!!! (big smile) (big blush) ... thanks girls .... off to read some more!!! i will not use the D's!!!

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Brenda! Another new product! You ROCK!

Years ago, I had my brother cut the snaffle Ds off one of my ICBs. My thinking was that those Ds interfered with the rotation of the bit. However, without those rings, is it possible to over rotate the bit? I've always been curious about that and cautioned my hands when I rode with the modified one.

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 Posted: Sun May 20th, 2012 03:54 pm
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Don't bother attaching the reins to the cheek (snaffle) rings. You'll do fine just attaching them to the lower rings.

In fact, I'm redesigning the ICB to eliminate the cheek rings. Originally, before the Training/Transition bit came on the scene, the idea was that riders could use the cheek (snaffle) rings to start. . .but that's proved not to be a good recommendation, since too many riders move young horses right onto the long shanks too soon.

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 Posted: Sun May 20th, 2012 03:09 pm
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Thanks. I read both. Why would one want to use the bit as snaffle/attach reins to D's?

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 Posted: Sun May 20th, 2012 02:37 pm
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Have you read any board topics about transitioning your horse to the Imus Comfort Gait Bit (ICB)?

Here is one for starters. Others can be found under the Tack Discussion Imus Comfort Gait Bit topic.

http://www.gaitsofgold.com/wowbb/forum53/9214.html

Imus Comfort Gait Bit topics:


http://www.gaitsofgold.com/wowbb/forum53/
 

 



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 Posted: Sun May 20th, 2012 01:06 pm
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The Imus Comfort Bit worked fine yesterday, my first use of it. Unfortunately I am new to horses and the abilities of this bit might be lost on me. I really don't know or understand how to gate a horse (sorry that probably is horrible, i am learning) .... But my 13 year old Paso Fino Mutt seemed fine in the Imus bit. He was a little more 'crazy' and required more correction than in the bit i was using. But i've tried to ride him in just a halter (those ones with the knots for control) and he ran off on me with that. So I know how really crazy he can get. He was fine in the Imus. I look forward to being able to use the bit to it's full potential and i GREATLY APPRECIATE KNOWING I am using a bit that should cause him minimal/no discomfort. THANK YOU!!!

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 Posted: Sun May 20th, 2012 06:55 am
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I would use the Imus Comfort Gait bit. The horse can better collect with this than with any non-bit bridle set ups that are out there. (And therefore perform his gait more correctly.)

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I've been riding in a Hackamore but would like to also use a bit! I rescued Duncan and this is what was advised we use! We tried the bit today and he accepted and released no problem - this tells me he at one time rode with one. What setup would you use! Something VERY gental- thank you!



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 Posted: Sat May 19th, 2012 03:51 pm
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OK. Thanks for explanation. I may use the all leather strap i have borrowed from a friend instead of all chain i own. If I didn't overlook the recommendation to buy your strap with bit on website i'd suggest adding that. So disappointing to realize it is needed and requires another purchase, shipment & freight. Plans are to put bit in his mouth today. Exciting to see his responses. Respect, cc

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 Posted: Sat May 19th, 2012 03:38 pm
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You can use a "regular" curb strap.  I do, however, highly recommend that you put one of mine on order.

The reasons are as follows.  An all chain curb chain, against a metal bit, can send waves, or echoes, of sound up through the cartilage on a horse's face, into its ears.  Some horses are very sensitive to this, and will constantly shake their heads - and it can be distracting to any horse.

On the other hand, a leather curb strap tends to stretch.  Plus, a horse's chin groove is quite tough, so it takes awhile for the action of leather against "leathery" skin to transmit.

A curb strap with biothane or leather on the ends, and a double chain in the center (double to prevent it from being too severe), prevents any metal on metal contact, yet has enough "take" that the horse will respond quickly to its feel.

I know. . .I know. . .but success is in the details. . .

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 Posted: Sat May 19th, 2012 03:23 pm
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I received the bit in the mail. I forgot about chin strap. I should have purchased too. :( can i use a 'regular ' chin chain? 3 finger gab?

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Lakota, you do give such great advice!



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 Posted: Mon May 14th, 2012 07:51 pm
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:-)

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 Posted: Mon May 14th, 2012 07:05 pm
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O.K. They both have 'curb' action. The Comfort Gait bit is the one I just showed with the longer shanks. That is the one you want. It sounds like that is the one that you just bought. So, you should be good.:D

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 Posted: Mon May 14th, 2012 06:45 pm
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Is it the "curb bit" you mentioned i should buy? The different terms are confusing for newbie to horses.: )

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