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| Posted: Sat Sep 1st, 2012 08:45 pm |
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Rose Allen Again G.O.G Community Member
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I can see where that would be very scary, when i ride i have my 45 single actin on most of the time but the way this happend it would be hard to deal with, i love dogs and have owned pit bulls but this would be unaccepable! i ride on back country roads some and always on the look out for dogs. best i can tell this was on public land so i cant say what i would have done, but it worrys me to think what i might have done. hope the rider and the horse are doing well.
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| Posted: Mon May 14th, 2012 05:31 am |
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NOELLEE G.O.G Community Member 
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We actually had this happen on a trail ride once... 4 dogs charged that were lab/shepherd/pit types. There were 9 riders on the horse trails that day, and four riders decided to cross a wide shallow river first. I had my QH on a ledge watching them cross to see how easy it would be before the remaining of us followed, and it was like a horror movie what suddenly happened. I saw from my position dogs charging in the middle of the river down towards the horses, and the horses saw the dogs coming from their side view, and did a privot to run, but the current took all four horses down to their knees. The riders were tough horse-ladies, and swung their horses back up as the dogs got nearer. One lady swung her horse towards the dogs and charged. The dogs scattered and fell back, but did not fully retreat. On the bank, my horse up on the ledge watching it wanted to get the hell out of there and I swung him back to the trail where the others were waiting very nervous, I got off my horse and pick up handfuls of gravel rocks and a couple other ladies did the same and we led our horses to the bank and were literally letting handfuls of gravel fling into the water repeatively to keep the dogs back off from the bank and charging towards the horses in the river again. By that time the riders in the water had turned to face the scattered dogs in a half circle, and the one lady kept charging her horse forward and driving back the most agressive dog, the other dogs luckily got nervous and ran back. Somehow between our rocks flinging from the bank non-stop towards this one remaining dog, the horses facing on and one charging from the water, all of us ladies hollaring war languge you would not believe, the last dog retreated. The owners were close by camping out by the river and grabbed their dogs. Needless to say, there were words said to the dog owners, but they acted like so what, no one got hurt. We were lucky that day it went down without one injury and somehow we were able to cause the dogs to retreat. I think because we had "distance" to work with first and time to react agressively as a "herd" it might have been what worked. Some of the riders waiting on the bank had never galloped their horses, and the-haul-out-of-there avenue could have gotten out of control. I was very proud of every rider that day, the ones in the river who were in the thick of it, the riders on the bank that both reacted to help fling rocks and the others that kept their horses calm. It was literally our numbers and our horses doing good that saved us. Last edited on Mon May 14th, 2012 05:41 am by NOELLEE |
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| Posted: Sun May 13th, 2012 06:26 pm |
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JMB G.O.G Community Member 
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Let me just say that is a horrific story. It is one of my worst fears. Dogs that attack in a pack with you on horseback is am extremely dangerous situation because, yes there is a high probability that you will become unhorsed and vulnerable to the dogs while you could possibly be injured or knocked out and just laying there. I myself always carry a handgun strapped to me and a nice sturdy flip open locking knife. This could be the only thing stopping the dog or person in your time of need. "Just know to throw your arm out sacrifice the bite for the kill and ready yourself for the next attacker." I have had many occasions and situations in which I have been forced to defend myself and in exactly NONE of the cases would turning and running been a wise or safe alternative. I live in North Western Va.....Shenandoah Valley.... I have been confronted by black bears, circled by dogs and had 7 Hispanic gang members MS13 punks come out and surround me. They threatened me with death and threatened the two females I was with, with rape and other disgusting cowardly acts. I, by being calm cool and very offensive when the time arouse, I made it out ok and so did the ones with me. I also took mental notes about each and every individual I saw before me so I could find them later..... The best way to be safe in this sitution is to be AWARE of what is going on around you at ALL TIMES and create a few scenarios in your mind and work them over with a good outcome for yourself. In this way, when a situation arises such as this you have dealt with it in your mind and you have a thought process established so when you are in flight or fight mode you can maintain a familiar thought process. You could also make practice scenarios with friends and make your own mini-clinics. I have done this with all my lady friends and their horse groups. We have a lot of fun and make a great day out of it. I always hope that through this sort of interaction that everyone will atleast take something of value away from this that might someday help save their life or someone elses. JMB 
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| Posted: Fri Mar 9th, 2012 09:44 pm |
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curliesrule G.O.G Community Member
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Larry ********? can't remember his name, has clinics but he's very expensive. I thought he had individual lessons; I have to check his web site again. Yea, some of those military people can be quite postal. (that's why the PO hires us).
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| Posted: Fri Mar 9th, 2012 09:30 pm |
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TN Trailrider G.O.G Community Member 
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Jugt Google Mounted Police Training for Civilians and you will probably get several things pop up. But remember, these classes are teaching the horse to be able to push against the crowd. You want the opposite effect now. My class had 22 participants and I serously doubt the instructor would take the time to work with one horse against what he's trying to teach the other. Tex Marciniak was the instructor for my clinic, and based on the demanding personality he had (old military man) I know he wouldn't take the time. He almost kicked me out of the arena because my horse kept calling for his buddy. He said "I can't have that behavior, either control him or leave." So Jim learned fast not to scream to his friend.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 9th, 2012 09:22 pm |
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curliesrule G.O.G Community Member
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Yea, I'm running a pych ward for animals. You can't use spurs on this guy either. When we got him, he had 2 cracked ribs on both sides, where he was kicked with spurs. Try teaching him to give to pressure without kicking, biting and just plain wanting to kill you. It was no small task!!! He's still very defensive on the ground, but is a dream to ride. He is the only other horse I can ride out on the trails and know I'm safe, that he has my back. My curlie's protective like that also, but now that he only has one eye, my walker is his replacement.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 9th, 2012 09:07 pm |
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Lakota Ranch Hand 
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I hear you, it's always hard to know where somebody's skill level is at when talking online. Sounds like it's no small thing with him then. Good luck  .
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| Posted: Fri Mar 9th, 2012 08:57 pm |
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curliesrule G.O.G Community Member
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I have dressage trained him. He's need to be deprogrammed to not go for the crowds unless asked. I have to get him to back off, without ruining his protected stance. It's a very thin line with him. We need to start small. At this stage we need a professional to help retrain him. I've trained military dogs and sometimes they get stressed out and get work aggressive too. It's always easier to train than to retrain. We'll get there.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 9th, 2012 04:36 pm |
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Lakota Ranch Hand
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Just work on giving to pressure at home, then when he starts to go where you don't want him in a parade, slide your foot back and stick your spur while pulling his nose around too. Be as assertive/aggressive as you need to.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 9th, 2012 01:20 pm |
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curliesrule G.O.G Community Member
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These classes are great. I need to have my TWH retrained. I rode him in a small fund raising parade (for cancer); and every time there was a group of people on the curb, he would try to sidepass into the crowd for crowd control. And he was NOT nice about it either  . I had to keep him in the center of the road. I would love to ride him in the Knoxville Christmas parade, but I don't dare trust him with all the kids on the curbs. Now I know why the Sheriff's dept. sold him  . If you hear of any classes in our area please let me know.Deb
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| Posted: Sun Mar 4th, 2012 02:54 am |
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TN Trailrider G.O.G Community Member
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About 12 years ago I took my Racking horse to a Mounted Police Training for Civilians 2-day course. Not only was it a blast, but it was the best course to put him through that I could have found. We did drills, obstacles, pushing against a big ball to simulate crowd control and to move their body against someone to push them off balance, and a ton of stuff. All this was interspersed with gun fire, and at the end of the 2-day session we each fired 2 shots off the back of our horse. If you ever have a chance to take a course like this I recommend it.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 3rd, 2012 08:59 pm |
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curliesrule G.O.G Community Member
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I have carried my gun on some trail rides. After reading that story I think I will bring it more often. Yes you need to get your horse desensitize not only to the gun itself but also use to shooting off their backs. Two of my horses (TWH & KMtn) were police horses, the TWH had problems with shooting off his back. But I found he's ok with my 38. You can check with your local mounted patrol sometimes off duty officers will hold courses for trail riders. Perfect example of "bad people; bad dogs!"
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| Posted: Sat Mar 3rd, 2012 04:08 am |
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slipslider G.O.G Community Member 
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Lol I agree with the run like hell!
____________________ LaVonne Summertime Stables, LLC Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a grave in a well preserved body But rather to slide in sideways, Totally worn out, Yelling......What a Ride ! |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 2nd, 2012 07:08 pm |
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Brenda Im Pasture Boss 
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The problem with both mace, and pepper spray, is that it can easily backfire b/c of the wind - and if a horse is whirling around, you won't have much real control of that. Then you end up with a maced, or pepper sprayed horse and/or rider, and a predator going after them. Not a good situation. I don't know what the answer is, here. . .except to agree w/TN Trailrider that we simply can't be in control of all situations, esp. on horse back. I know one cardinal rule I taught my daughter when we rode in remote areas: never, ever, allow someone else to grab hold of your reins. That puts them in control of you, and your horse. If someone on the trail, or roadside, raises your hackles, then head to a challenging trail that will stymie them from being able to follow - or else, run like h*ll! PB
____________________ It's not always about trying to fix something that's broken. Maybe it's about starting over and creating something better. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28th, 2012 04:46 pm |
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hatcherdm G.O.G Community Member
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I ride by myself quite a bit on trails surrounding our farm, and it is not unheard of for folks to grow marijuana in WV--so got a concealed weapon permit and a 9mm to carry. Before I take it with me riding, I intend to fire it around my horse so he doesn't spook if I ever need to fire it. I hope never to shoot an animal or god forbid a person, but at least I know I could make a whole lot of noise...
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28th, 2012 02:52 pm |
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sdlepal Ranch Hand 
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I carry the pepper spray on my saddle bag. But by the time I got it unsnapped then opened, I probably would drop it. My horse doesn't care for dogs, he lays his ears back and strikes out and tries to bite them. But he also is a spinner when afraid, so I know I would have to have the mercy of the Lord to stay on. That was a very frightening story and an amazing one that horse and rider worked so well together. I hope I never have to experience anything like that. I always give a person or animal the benefit of the doubt when I encounter them. I will try to be more cautious when I run into a stranger or dogs.
____________________ Pam and Cowboy Casey |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28th, 2012 01:06 pm |
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jato G.O.G Community Member 
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I'm afraid I would fall off and have no protection.I would like to have a spray on me just in case.Better than nothing.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28th, 2012 12:57 pm |
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karenlexsc G.O.G Community Member 
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The way that gals horse reacted, and thankfully so, getting out even mace, no matter where it was and aiming anywhere near in the direction of the attackers, would be near impossible for me...i would be doing great to stay on. Same for a gun! I can't see a defense except hoping for a lull in the attack long enough for the horse to run (taking me with him, please).
____________________ Karen No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26th, 2012 10:43 pm |
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T.Bone G.O.G Community Member
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I work for a large electric utility as a lineman and dog attacks are a major concern of ours. We have training each year on this topic and now we are supplied with pepper spray, I feel that this is the most humane defense we can have. I am a dog lover and dont blame the dog for lack of training but I dont want bit either. With the training we have had I want to caution the use of sprays, wind drift is your enemy. If it blows back on you or your horse you could be in for more trouble and that stuff hurts. My son is a deputy sheriff and was sprayed in training and the skin on his face peeled a couple days later. Hope this helps. For trail rides I carry both spray and CCW.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26th, 2012 09:35 pm |
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jato G.O.G Community Member
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Thank you.Nice site.
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