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 Posted: Sun May 27th, 2012 03:34 am
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Sweetcakes, try this link and go to your state and look over the listed specialist for barefoot trims.

 

http://www.thehorseshoof.com/trimmers.html

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 Posted: Sat May 26th, 2012 02:50 pm
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Can anyone help me on how to find a "good" barefoot trimmer in Washington state?

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 Posted: Sun Aug 7th, 2011 07:51 pm
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TN, I think you're not wanting to go barefoot 100%, but your pony's feet may actually widen out to a more conventional shape if allowed to be barefoot year round. It could be the shoes that are causing this shape over the years (or not). Just a thought.

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NOELLEE wrote:  Mustages travel many miles every day

Feral horses travel only as far as they need to for food and water within their environment and no more.  Sometimes that is many miles, sometimes not.  Feral horses also die of many of the same afflictions that our equine pets do - including internal parasites, lack of proper nutrients and hoof diseases - only most times, much sooner.  Hoof and body shapes also vary greatly depending upon the environment and footing that the feral horse is subjected to.  Only the strong survive and those who do not carry the strongest lines particular for their environment die and do not pro-create, unlike the domestically bred equine who exists because of us to bid our calling and must carry a burden on their backs - us.

A feral horse and a domestic horse cannot be combined together as each has very different demands and environments in which to survive.  Each case must be approached individually.  The horse will let you know what is best for them.

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You can also roll/rocker the boot itself.  Most folks have a problem manipulating their very expensive boots, but I have seen this done with very good results.  I wish more people would consider this.

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TN,

Valley Vet has better prices, but Easy Boot site more infor. 

My farrier/natural trimmer does not do the exact "mustage roll" either... it is a shorter toe than our horses need.  Mustages travel many miles every day and hence how the toe got a shorter, more aggressive rollover, our horses usually roam inside a fence and get rode for short daily outings or once/twice a week.  She does a natural trim with a proper angle with the pasture and creates a rounded hoof, and rasps off the edges nicely, the effect is the horse moves nicely from hoof to shoulder, neck, all over.  I have posted pics of each of my horses' trims in other threads under my profile name and each of their hooves are different, but I can see the natural fit of each individual trim.  Their hooves are looking better after each trim.  Even though we take our horses barefoot, it takes almost a whole year to create a "barefoot" and the boots help with riding during the transition.  River, my 4yr QH was taken barefoot first, and it is amazing to not only watch his hoof shape nicely on the outside, but to study the sole, frog, bars on the bottom and watch how the whole hoof changes, and how much better he performs.  Bo, my other QH is coming along nicely and each trim gets his hoof more round and less width needed.  Rain, my TWH, whom I just took barefoot, is doing very well, given that I am working with an extreme case of thrush on his front feet.  His hoof wall is chipping as it should, staying naturally rounded with no flaring and he is walking well... just annoyed at me for dealing with the thrush daily to keep air flow circulating.

I hope in a year to be whew! Happily riding barefoot!! Only using boots when necessary.

You can contact my farrier/trimmer and see if she can get a recommendation and referral for a farrier/natural trimmer who knows how to trim and fit for boots in your area.  Just PM and I will give you her website.  I personally think the glove is easy to put on after you do once or twice.  I love its simple design and with the power straps the horses move out freely.   

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Thanks Noelle.  I have a Valley Vet catalog that has the fit sizes in it, but the Easy Boot web site probably is a better place to check out the sizes.  With some of these boots, I have to keep in mind that this horse does not have the barefoot trim or mustang roll, which has ruled out many boots (like Renegades) because of the toe shape.  That is what was wrong with the ones I had custom made for him.  I told her when I sent the hoof tracing and measurements that the horse did not have the barefoot trim and was normally shod and to not do the toes of the boot in the "rolled" style, but she did anyway so they didn't work on him as it affects the length of the boot.  He is usually shod but on occasions when I go down to load up and he comes in missing a front shoe, or in the hot summer and freezing winter I pull shoes to give the hoof a break from them, I'd like a pair for the front hoofs just in case I want to take him out and as a spare tire if he loses one on the trail.  If I could get a good fitting boot and quick/easy to put on (which I've heard the Glove isn't) then I would consider taking him barefoot.  My farrier will not do the mustang roll.  He'll bevel the edges slightly but doesn't have kind things to say about the full mustang roll. 



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TN Trailrider wrote: I'll have to check the measurements for the Glove again.  I know the #2 Easy Boot in the other styles is too small and the #3 is too big.  But I'll check it out.  Thanks for the suggestion.
The Gloves have a different size chart from the others and also come in half sizes.  The key is to get the best, tightest fit, these boots literally fit like a glove, but with the hard bottom.  Both my TWH and my 4yr QH were able to wear perfect fitted gloves after their first trim.  My 10yr QH had more width at the bottom after his first trim, so it took a few trims to fit him for Gloves, hence why he wore Edge EBs at first.  But it almost sounds like with the 5x5.5 inch measurement, you may get that Glove to work well.  I have posted some pictures on here with my horses in Easy Boots and their trimmed hooves, and next time I see the appy mare, I will take a pic of her hooves and in Easy Boots... she moves out nice, even at a gallop.

You can go to the Easy Boot web page and they have a size chart for the Gloves, and suggestions on fit.

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I'll have to check the measurements for the Glove again.  I know the #2 Easy Boot in the other styles is too small and the #3 is too big.  But I'll check it out.  Thanks for the suggestion.



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TN Trailrider wrote: He doesn't have a boxy foot he has a long foot.  Have tried East Boots, Easy Boot Epics, Simple Boots, Boa Boots, custom made boots which had to go back, Hoof Wraps, Hoof Mocs and whatever else is out there.  If they are long enough, they are too wide.  If they are wide enough they aren't long enough. 

TN, my trimmer has an appy mare with long hooves that are not wide.  When we were hosing the horses after our ride, I noticed this.  She had told me her mare took a size 0 in Glove Easy Boots (the smallest size!), and I said no way, because she is a sizable well-built mare.  I looked closer at her hooves and the shape is long and narrow, but balanced and angled nicely.  It was a different look from the rounded hoof, but the mare moves beautifully.

Have you tried the Easy Boot Glove and add the power straps?  This is what the appy mare wears, and the boots are a great fit, stay put.  You can go to their web site and order the fit kit, which is very inexpensive, based on the measurements of a newly trimmed balanced hoof. 

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TN, have you tried EasyBoots. I believe they have the best developed product line of any boot company. I believe they would have a boot to fit the "boxy" hoof that you describe
He doesn't have a boxy foot he has a long foot.  Have tried East Boots, Easy Boot Epics, Simple Boots, Boa Boots, custom made boots which had to go back, Hoof Wraps, Hoof Mocs and whatever else is out there.  If they are long enough, they are too wide.  If they are wide enough they aren't long enough. 



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ParkerFarrier wrote: TN, have you tried EasyBoots. I believe they have the best developed product line of any boot company. I believe they would have a boot to fit the "boxy" hoof that you describe
For for those interested in staying barefoot, going barefoot, or heading to the the IMUS October get-together coming up and may not want to shod just for the event... since my trimmer and I have been experiencing with boot styles and extreme trail riding, including various gaits, trots and gallops/lopes:

We are finding hands-down the boots that stay well-put and still give the horse natural movement is the Easy Boot Gloves *with power straps* added to each of the four boots. 

I have to say that my horses really love wearing their boots, and on gravel roads there is zero ouch :)

 

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TN, have you tried EasyBoots. I believe they have the best developed product line of any boot company. I believe they would have a boot to fit the "boxy" hoof that you describe



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Hey, a farrier has come forth!!!  Maybe you can help me.  I want to get a pair of hoof boots for the front hoofs of my Rocky Mountain horse.  Mostly he is shod, but he loses shoes and occasionally when I'm not riding (like when it's 98 outside like now, he is unshod for the summer).  The boots are mostly a spare tire.  Problem is, he seems to have a strangely shaped hoof and nothing I've tried so far fit.  His hoofs are 5-1/2 inches long and 5 inches wide, and most boots seem to be made for rounded hoofs.  The few I haven't tried, like Renegades, are made for barefoot horses with mustang rolls and that won't work either. 

Do you know of any boot that would fit a hoof that size?



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Missie, as a general rule of thumb a decrease (or lowered) hoof angle causes a horse to create more fold and less reach in its gait. Conversly, a higher (or increased) hoof angle causes less fold and more reach. Again, these are just general rules of thumb. Every horse reacts and gaits differently.



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My advice would be to have your farrier trim to the horses' natural angle and shoe conservatively (ie. plain keg shoes). Then, if you have other needs (such as pads for a week in a rocky locale, or if he forges) take steps to fix these problems. If he goes well naturally then you're doing the right thing.

I like to go barefoot as much as possible. Shoe if you need to protect the hoof from too much blacktop riding or rocky trails though.

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That would be the next step beyond the Runwalk in the gait spectrum if I remember correctly.



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My horse is a speed racker.

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It would be best for us to judge that by seeing full shots (confirmation side shot) of the horse showing the feet with the whole horse.

Horses that Fox Trot, Trot in the back and walk in the front. Horses that Run Walk Trot in the front and walk in the back. My farrier Henry said there is a certain way to trim based on that. But the most important thing with trimming is that they are always trimed to their natural angles in alignment with their over all confirmation.



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I have heard about angle, and was wondering if my farrior is trimming my horse the best for him to gait easier.  Is there any apecail requirements for gaited?

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