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| Posted: Mon Apr 26th, 2010 12:32 am |
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whattarack Pasture Boss 
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I finally had my own Standardbred mare last year. She had been used for racing (same as being shown in pacing classes). I rode her for a weekend at Mt. Rogers, VA with my niece and her husband last fall. I found that she was an honest horse and full of heart to go the extra mile. Later in the fall, my husband and I were involved in a near head on collision while trailering our horses. The Standardbred mare and a Palamino mare were on my horse trailer. The Palamino sustained severe injuries and had to be euthanized at the scene. She was the horse in the front end of the trailer. The standardbred was loaded at the rear and she survived without much injury at all - just a few scratches. My husband and I sustained significant injuries. Because we would not be able to care for the Standardbred mare, I asked my niece to take her home and care for her. When I am well, I plan to reconsider owning a Standardbred. No matter the gait, they are supurb trail horses and in my opinion are very sensible natured. So, give me a standardbred pacer with a racky lick and I'll happily be and interested student for year and years. - Love 'em.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 25th, 2010 11:41 pm |
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goranbockman G.O.G Community Member 
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SPOTD RIDR wrote: My BIL has 3 OTT SB's and that was exactly my husbands experience when he rode theres a few times, BIL said keep going he smooths out when you get him going fast, my husbands reply was "my b*lls are up in my throat & I can't breath, stop, stop" Neices husband after riding one day is so swollen he doesn't ride the rest of the trip, but theres were raced for a few years. I've had the same experience on Iceys, whose master's were hooked on the flying pace. "Balls in my throat" sums it up nicely. This is the reason I'd prefer to get couple Standies that have never been raced. Retraining Pace racers could be just too much of a chore, not to mention the strain on ones reproductive organs.l1
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| Posted: Sun Apr 25th, 2010 11:25 pm |
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SPOTD RIDR G.O.G Community Member 
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whattarack wrote: I've ridden the standardbred pacer. In my experience it was rough to ride. The more suspension, the rougher the feel of it. I've heard it does smooth out with speed but I suppose I've not ridden it fast enough to find the smooth in it. My BIL has 3 OTT SB's and that was exactly my husbands experience when he rode theres a few times, BIL said keep going he smooths out when you get him going fast, my husbands reply was "my b*lls are up in my throat & I can't breath, stop, stop" Neices husband after riding one day is so swollen he doesn't ride the rest of the trip, but theres were raced for a few years. Last edited on Sun Apr 25th, 2010 11:25 pm by SPOTD RIDR ____________________ JoAngela "Jo" |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 25th, 2010 11:00 pm |
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goranbockman G.O.G Community Member
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Hi Whatta, Thanks for replying to my post. I know the Standardbred doesn’t always have the best of reps, so it’s nice to see you love riding them. 
I used to bet on trotters in Sweden and I would often see the winner in a race, not trot but rack across the finish line, so if I saw a horse racking during warm up I’d be sure to put my money on him, as speed rack is faster than even the racing trot. I would more often than not get a good return on my money. I believe the best thing would be to get a pacer that was never raced, because pacing for long stretches will make the horse very stiff and develop the wrong muscles for racking. However, once retrained they will make the most consistent and smoothest rackers.tu1 I refer to the evenly timed 4 beat gait, that does NOT have the overstride of the running walk, as a rack. In terms of the Icey gaits, I think you call it tolt? For me, they are one and the same. Having watched many vids of racking horses that is my belief too; one gait different names.
I believe that would be true, only until the horse has set the appropriate muscles for racking and has learnt to rack in a more rounded form. Having learned that, I have found the 5-gaited Iceys with a strong pace to be the best and fastest tolters. However we are very careful not to pace a 5-gaited Icey too often and only for short bursts of top speed, as pace is detrimental to the tolt. "Save the pace like it was gold!" is a popular saying among Icey riders.;)
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| Posted: Sun Apr 25th, 2010 08:49 pm |
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whattarack Pasture Boss
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I love to ride the Standardbred horse. There are some that are so strongly bred for pacing or trotting that you will only get pacing or trotting. However, some of the nicest racking (tolt, singlefoot) horses come out of the standardbred blood. I've ridden the standardbred pacer. In my experience it was rough to ride. The more suspension, the rougher the feel of it. I've heard it does smooth out with speed but I suppose I've not ridden it fast enough to find the smooth in it. I refer to the evenly timed 4 beat gait, that does NOT have the overstride of the running walk, as a rack. In terms of the Icey gaits, I think you call it tolt? For me, they are one and the same. The standardbred rack (for those that will rack/tolt) may or may not have much lift in the front. Again, that is depending on the horse's confirmation and, their rack may tend to be a little more lateral from square than the racking gait I've seen from the Icey in videos. My neice and her husband owns standardbreds. They show in pacing classes. However, they have one Standardbred that is a racking horse only. No pace, no trot. go figure? Oops. Sorry for putting in too soon. I jumped the gun in this post. I have No experience riding the Icey. We have adopted the gait spectrum as described by Brenda Imus in the article linked here. The adoption of this spectrum helps us easily identify the gaits and understand the significant differences among them. http://www.gaitsofgold.com/Gaited-Horse-Training-Articles/gaits-of-a-horse-in-a-nutshell.html Last edited on Sun Apr 25th, 2010 09:04 pm by whattarack ____________________ Being Offended is Optional. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 25th, 2010 06:36 pm |
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goranbockman G.O.G Community Member
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I believe by mistake I posted this topic in the wrong forum . It's not meant as a poll. Would a moderator please move it to its proper place (I don't know how)? Thanks.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 25th, 2010 04:24 pm |
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goranbockman G.O.G Community Member
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Hia Gaiters,(Have introduced myself in the proper forumto1) A Swede, I was born and raised (more or lessw2) on Icelandics; been riding them for 35+ years and love'em to death! Thing is I've decided to retire to the Phils and, it being a tropical country, I don't believe it's climate is suitable for Iceys. As an alternative I've been looking at Standardbreds and I'm wondering; is there anyone on here that has experience of both Iceys and Standies (Pacers) and could tell me how similar the Standies' gaiting pattern is to Toelt? 
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