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 Posted: Wed Jul 8th, 2009 05:35 pm
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barngoddess
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thank you Brenda.

The 5 yo is a "nervous nellie" and has been from the time we got him. Hes very imature mentally as well. We were told he had a problem with flipping his tongue over the bit prior to us getting him.  His teeth were just done and the equine dentist stated he saw nothing in his mouth that would be causing him any discomfort.  Ive hesitated to use a drop nose band on this boy due to his nervousness but I will try it at this point.

Ive only used full cheek snaffle bits for years and maybe its just me not being familiar with the new bit and the way it appears to set in the horses mouth.

I will def check my reins and hand placement while working with the "boys".  Being a english rider for years, I know nothing about that  neck reining stuff..lol

T

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whattarack is correct.  Also, if the horse is placing his tongue over the bit and/or playing with it excessively, it helps to place a dropped noseband positioned so that the noseband 'traps' the mouthpiece between the noseband and the corners of the horse's mouth.  Adjust it snugly, but not so tightly that it interferes with breathing.  The horse will be unable to play around with the bit, and learn to go with a nice, quiet mouth.  That center roller is something the horses like, and some of them - especially horses that tend to have a playful personality - really get to playing with it.

When you use the bit, start by teaching the horse to go on a long, low, leading rein.  Be sure to give forward on the outside rein when you take on the inside rein.  Many people instinctively pull the outside rein UP, as though neck reining, while taking on the inside rein.  This sends a conflicting signal to the horse, as you're pulling in on one rein, and up on the other - giving different cues to each side.  The indirect action of the mouthpiece usually encourages the horse to drop and bend into the turn, rather than have a direct pull - horses naturally tend to resist direct pressure. 

Hope this helps!

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 Posted: Wed Jul 8th, 2009 04:31 pm
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barngoddess
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yes, I understand that.

However, any ideas on the "sloopyness" from the bit to the bridle areas other then cranking it up higher in the horses mouth?

sorry, Im just one of those old "snaffle bits" girls:)

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It is correct for the bit to over hang each side of the mouth. This makes for no pinching. The bit is designed to fit horses that have a 4 1/2" to 5 1/2" mouth.

You'll see a pic of my horse in the ICB in this thread: The overhang is correct for the training bit as well as for the regular bit.

http://gaitsofgold.info/wowbb/forum53/9146.html



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Hi all, Im new to the board and have a question for everyone.

I purchased my ICTB. Im presently using it on 2 horses I have.

Ive placed my reins to be used in the snaffle position at this time presently on both horses.

The mouth piece of the bit appears to be too large for both horses.

It's kinda difficult to explain but the (mouth piece) appears longer and is sticking out on both sides of the mouth (causing the sides of the bit to have a "gap" from the mouth piece to the side pieces) and will actually look 'floppy" from the sides of the horses face ( as in pulling away from the sides of the face) when working a horse from side to side.

I tried to shorten the bridle pulling the bit further up into their mouths.

 However, my 5 yo is now flipping his tongue over the bit  while the older walker is chewing the bit like crazy after I pulled the bit up higher on him.

Any sugggestions?

Sorry folks, Im trying to explain this as best as I can. l1

T

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