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| Posted: Sat May 26th, 2007 06:57 pm |
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cityrider G.O.G Community Member
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I just got my horse on Monday and I have spent the week getting him used to his new barn and barn buddies. We have never owned a horse before so we are fumbling through. It has been fun but I have so many questions. I have the ICG bit and I think I have it rigged wrong. I am really a visual learner and cannot find any posted pictures of how it is supposed to go. I read through everyone's posts and I have figured out that I have the curb chain in the wrong place. It shoud go on the most north set of holes. How about the reins? I have them on the most south set of holes. Is that right? Also.. It seems really wide in my horses mouth. It keeps sliding back an forth. It will be close on one side and hanging out on the other and then I look later and it is the other way. He is such a good boy and actually let me put it in upside down twice before we figured out what was wrong with it.(we just put it in,didn't actually try to ride that way!) He is 14.1 hands so he runs on the smaller side. Is there a possibility that it is too big? No one else at the barn rides a gaited horse so they are not used to my tack and cannot really help with questions.  I really would appreciate any help that anyone has to offer. Or pictures would be great too!
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| Posted: Sat May 26th, 2007 10:29 pm |
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whattarack Pasture Boss 
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How's this? I don't think it can be too big. It should exceed the mouth. Attachment: RnT.JPG (Downloaded 852 times) Last edited on Sat May 26th, 2007 10:30 pm by whattarack ____________________ Being Offended is Optional. |
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| Posted: Sat May 26th, 2007 10:31 pm |
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whattarack Pasture Boss
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And how's this? Curb strap hooks to the same rings as headstall. Try it loose (about 3 stacked fingers between the horse and the chain when the reins are Not engaged. Attachment: Comfort Bit.JPG (Downloaded 1258 times) Last edited on Sat May 26th, 2007 10:32 pm by whattarack ____________________ Being Offended is Optional. |
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| Posted: Sat May 26th, 2007 11:44 pm |
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cityrider G.O.G Community Member
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Thanks! If I use the rains in the snaffle position do I leave the curb strap on or take it off? I didn't realize the bit could be used for both positions. I do not have a nose band on my bridle does that make a difference with the side to side action of the bit?
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| Posted: Sun May 27th, 2007 02:14 am |
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cityrider G.O.G Community Member
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I saw some of the other posts and know that the curb chain is used with the reins in the curb position. Which position is easier for the horse? My horse is 4. His bit was more a snaffle but it also had a very rigid nose band. It looked like it would make his nose very sore so I am not using it. He still gaits but does not hold it for very long. He either moves up to a trot or down to a walk. I think we need to work on our communication between each other. I am going to move it to the snaffle position and see how things go tomorrow.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 4th, 2007 08:20 pm |
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JoyRider G.O.G Community Member 
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Cityrider, I am no expert. And you may have found out by now. But I noticed your post wasn't answered. You don't use curb strap on snaffles and depending on your nose band type depends on which bit you use it with. I have what they call a caveson noseband it is what they call standard noseband and can be used with any bit and should be able to fit 2 fingers between it and the horses nose and it is designed to only put pressure on if the horse opens its mouth to avoid the bit, hence horse only one putting pressure on. The other type nosebands fit not only around the nose but will also come underneath the snaffle rings or attached to the snaffle bit itself in other words should only be used with snaffle bit. And you may know this but some "broke bits" are actually curb bits because the reins are attached to the shanks and true snaffles don't have shanks that have rings at the mouth where the reins are attached and sometimes headstall too depending on the type used, and there are some snaffles that have solid mouthpieces. That is what I like about the ICB you can use it as both and of course on it the head stall has its own rings and the reins their own rings (snaffle or curb). Sometimes you can't always go by what the horse was in. Some people progress to the curb before the horse is ready. Somebody will jump in and correct me wherever I am wrong here but probably if your horse is obeying your rein signals for right, left, etc. He probably is okay to try the curb on the ICG if not, then use snaffle rings with no curb chain or strap. You can feel free to update me on how it is going. Last edited on Mon Jun 4th, 2007 08:23 pm by JoyRider ____________________ Revelation 19:11 |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 4th, 2007 10:49 pm |
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cityrider G.O.G Community Member
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Thanks for responding! I am still trying to get it right. I have the bit in the curb position and he seems to be doing left and right ok. I seem to have trouble keeping him up to a speed faster than a walk. I am not sure he is really listening to me becasue he seems to just go the speed he wants to go despite what I tell him. I am wondering if I changing to the snaffle will have any effect on that?
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| Posted: Mon Jun 4th, 2007 10:59 pm |
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whattarack Pasture Boss
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Read the articles from the homepage about Impulsion. Sounds like he needs to find it. BTW, when I wonder about something, I have to try it. For me personally, There is no teacher better than experience. However, I would imagine that once in the snaffle rings, his head will come up, he'll nose out and problably move faster but not in good form. Just my hunch of what he'll do. Let us know. w2 Impulsion: http://www.gaitsofgold.net/content/view/33/35/ Last edited on Mon Jun 4th, 2007 11:02 pm by whattarack ____________________ Being Offended is Optional. |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 4th, 2007 11:02 pm |
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JoyRider G.O.G Community Member
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Have you looked on the home page under Gaited Horse Training. There are several issues discussed about bits and also different questions asked about common problems and answers. And of course always the tried & true get your respect from him on the ground by getting him to obey moving in the direction you want, asking for forward & backward commands and so forth on the ground. Do you have an arena or round pen in which to work? And your horse is still young and relatively new to you. I didn't know if you had a trainer or riding instructor close by. You had mentioned first horse, but wasn't sure if you meant you had been preparing beforehand. Good luck. Keep us posted.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 4th, 2007 11:05 pm |
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JoyRider G.O.G Community Member
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Sorry Whattarack, I was posting same time as you. Cityrider, Whattarack won't steer ya wrong. 
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| Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2007 03:24 am |
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cityrider G.O.G Community Member
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Wow, that article fits us to a "T". How does one push energetically into the saddle? Does she mean pushing down and backwards? And then when she says seat, upper leg- do I squeez with the upper leg? I guess you can figure that I have VERY LITTLE riding experience-l1 Thanks for the help it really is appreciated.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2007 11:33 am |
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whattarack Pasture Boss
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l1 I wish that you could see the DVD set or the Gaits of Gold video. If you are like me, you need visuals. Anyway, you ever sit in the saddle and just move a little to see how your horse responds? It's all very interesting to me. To get Taylor to move forward, I just kinda scootch in my seat. Does that make sense? To keep her impulsed, I might have to tap her with the rein or squeeze with my legs. I used to have to do quite a bit of scootching, flapping, and tapping - whatever it takes, right? (I can already here Brenda saying, "No. No. No." l1 Anyway . . . I have a feeling that you are going to just have to try and see what works for you and if you just don't "get it", come to my house and watch the vids with me. l1
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 01:28 am |
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jn1022 G.O.G Community Member 
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Hi CityRider, I'm training a 3 yr old twh and when riding on my property he would only want to walk slowly. I would use CA's practice of leg pressure, cluck, then spank to speed him up. If legs don't do it, then cluck and if that don't do it, then I use an over/under. I would only use about a foot of the over/under (a round leather piece that hooks to the saddle horn to use as a whip) so as not to freak him out. Just the motion of it passing over his shoulder would spur him on. After a couple of rides he would respond to the leg and cluck. Once I got him off property his pace picked up to an energetic flat walk probably just due to him being anxious about leaving his security blanket. Once he's responding to leg pressure you can keep him up in his gait more consistently. Now I have to keep ticking the reins to keep him down in speed so he doesn't get choppy. I assume he is pacing when he gets choppy. I also like to make him gait uphill which makes him collect himself and is really smooth. I never let Silver gait downhill because he will hollow his back and pace. Jim
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 02:06 am |
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ssecmft G.O.G Community Member 
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When I first got my mare she must have never been taught to gait consistantly either. After reading many old posts and articles on the home page, we slowed it all down and started working the walk. When we got that down to a nice even step, I started adding a little speed until she had a nice walk with some speed to it. That was last summer. With learning what collecting really ment, this year we have been able to go from a runwalk to an actual fox trot. Most stock type horses have to lope to keep up with her. In Sept. we began to canter a little, something she has never done under saddle. Very comfortable gait for both of us. She was broke at 2, but I didn't buy her until she was 5 and it has taken a while to get her to this point. Now that the muscules have developed better for her to gait, she is much more consistant and stays in gait longer. By next summer she should easily transition from one gait to the other.
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