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| Posted: Thu May 20th, 2010 10:55 pm |
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ssecmft G.O.G Community Member 
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We appreciate it too. If you read some of the 'stop the soaring' threads you will understand many of the changes that are finally happening here in the States. There's more to be done. We seem to have many issues here with horses. The economy and the closing of slaughter plants have shed light on things that folks didn't know went on with the horse industry at large. Many laws and procedures need to change. It took a long time for many of those things to come about and it will take nearly as long to fix them.
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| Posted: Thu May 20th, 2010 08:44 pm |
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goranbockman G.O.G Community Member 
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ssecmft wrote: Believe me, goranbockman, many of us right here are disgusted with whole thing too. I'm sure you are and, by no means was I implying that you are, in any way condoning it. What I meant to say is that European riders are backing you entirely in your battle against soring and artificial aids. 
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| Posted: Thu May 20th, 2010 07:20 pm |
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ssecmft G.O.G Community Member
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Believe me, goranbockman, many of us right here are disgusted with whole thing too.
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| Posted: Thu May 20th, 2010 03:05 pm |
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goranbockman G.O.G Community Member
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ssecmft wrote:
Having shown many Icelandics, in Europe, I've experienced many, many very smooth and very highstepping specimen, and they are only allowed light boots to protect the front hoofs from injury during overstride in fast rack. It's all a matter of breeding and proper training. European riders are shocked and outraged to read about soring and what not in the US, in connection with gaiters. 
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| Posted: Thu May 20th, 2010 12:06 pm |
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ssecmft G.O.G Community Member
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I go to youtube and use your videos to show people what these breeds should look like. I watch them frquently, doublem. I agree with Kentucky and have said it before. If judges would educate themselves and their peers, stop placing any equine, horse, pony or mini, that has inappropriate 'extras', much of the nonsence would stop. If sponcers would no longer support these classes or shows, you would begin to see the end of many of these things. The QH world has begun to realize that pleasure horses that drag their noses in the ground is unhealthy and inconsistant with what the natural movement would be. The extremely slow gaits are not how they would move in a natural setting. Any breed that has a natural high stepping gait, (Saddlebred, TWH, some others, I'm sure), should be left to do that without all the extras. It should come from breeding, not wieghts of any kind.
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| Posted: Thu May 20th, 2010 05:17 am |
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doublemfarm G.O.G Community Member 
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ssecmft wrote: Really makes you wonder what ever happened to breeding for talent, intelligence, and natural ability instead of the fast buck. You know, way back before all the gimmicks. When you could go to a sale and not have to concern yourself that the horse was given a shot of something to make sure they were either docile or cover up some hidden injury. When you could honestly trust the person you were buying from. Seems if everything isn't written in tripicate, signed and noterized your just SOL, if the animals isn't what it's represented to be. I'm done ranting, I think.b1 ssecmft, that's exactley what we breed for. If you have to train a horse to be something it isn't, what good is it? Especially if it's a stallion. It's not going to pass on those man made talents to it's offspring. I've never understood the Walking horse world! I can't stand the thought of any horse being in pain much less doing this to them on purpose! I can't stand the thought of any animal being in pain for that matter...I scream at my husband when we're driving along and a rabbit or squirrel runs out in front of the truck...he usually comes back with "they made it, uncover your eyes"...lol
____________________ Naturally Gaited, Keg Shod, Racking Horses www.doublemfarm.net |
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| Posted: Thu May 20th, 2010 02:43 am |
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Kentucky G.O.G Community Member 
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in my opinion it is the judges/show regs fault... they should judge the horse/man relationship... how they handle, how they move together .. how flawless the horse responds to the rider... I believe all classes should be judged on the horsemanship... after all isnt that what showing is?? how good of a relationship between you and your horses are? I guess I just dont get it... fancy braids, 4 inch manes, soring, mandatory bits, mandatory movements like sidepassing and shoulder in..... makes me glad I stay on the trail... with my long whiskered, fuzzy fetlocked friend..
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 04:07 pm |
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SunnysMum G.O.G Community Member 
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Someone should forward that beautiful article Brenda wrote on this subject to those people. Maybe then they would have another good proper re-thinking on this.
____________________ Chi ha tegoli di vetro, non tiri sassi al vicino |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22nd, 2009 06:15 am |
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MHVishal G.O.G Community Member
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I am glad to hear somebody is trying to do somethisng abut this atrocity we can only keep our fingers crossed that something will work in the future.I say fine and suspend the owners,trainers and anybody else involved in soring which is a gross mistratment of these hores.I need to know why they find.First of all it looks ridiculous and there is nothing natural about it. Oh well better not get startd here,this is one of my sore spots.tried to submit an entery on the carnival but it has been down all day.Will try again tomorrow.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20th, 2008 10:59 pm |
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ssecmft G.O.G Community Member
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Really makes you wonder what ever happened to breeding for talent, intelligence, and natural ability instead of the fast buck. You know, way back before all the gimmicks. When you could go to a sale and not have to concern yourself that the horse was given a shot of something to make sure they were either docile or cover up some hidden injury. When you could honestly trust the person you were buying from. Seems if everything isn't written in tripicate, signed and noterized your just SOL, if the animals isn't what it's represented to be. I'm done ranting, I think.b1
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20th, 2008 10:28 pm |
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sabinosue G.O.G Community Member
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I the summer of 2007, I was asked to drive a mini at a local show as kind of Memorial for a well know mini breeder/trainer (John Jackson) who had passed on, here in Calif. Several of us got together with many of the mini's that John had bred, trained and shown, and entered them at a driving show in Norco Calif. We entered in the pleasure driving classes and everyone had a great time remembering a man who really loved and promoted these little horses. This was the first time I had driven one of John's horses and was I impressed. It turned out that the little guy I drove, Rio, was one of John's Roadster Mini's. Although Rio had not been driven in over a year, he buckled down and did his thing ! Rio was such a great mover, pretty good action for a guy who is only 32 inches tall !! I was sorry when our classes were over ! A friend, who was there with another of John's mini's, also brought her Hackney Roadster Pony to enter in the Roadster class. Well, because I love to drive (I used to harness race) and this little guy was such a kick to drive......Believe it or not, I entered Rio...the Mini, in the Roadster Class against 3 Hackney Ponies. I was in a pleasure cart..not a roadster, I was wearing a floor length split skirt..not racing silks.. All that aside.... that little guy BEAT 2 out of the 3 Hackney Roadster Ponies!!!!!!  He had what it took without any of the CRAP and the judge knew it !! I hate to see these devises available for ANY horse. They simply don't need them. They DO nothing for the horse... only the egotists who would use them.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20th, 2008 08:57 pm |
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ssecmft G.O.G Community Member
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Good thought, spirit. I'll do the same. Thanks
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20th, 2008 08:36 pm |
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I won't berate them for selling what some people want to buy. They probably believe what they are telling you. I will tell them that I haven't, and will never, purchase anything from their store (or any other) that sells such products.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20th, 2008 06:05 pm |
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ssecmft G.O.G Community Member
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I got a 3rd e-mail last night that thanked me for my opinion on thier products. Of course they asured me that those items would not cause the damage that the items used on TWHs do. If more of us e-mail, maybe we can influence them.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20th, 2008 02:02 pm |
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slipslider G.O.G Community Member 
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They have those cart classes for minis and just like any other show the award will go with the higher stepping little horse. So of course someone would invent something to try and make them have a little more knee action. Silly isn't it? Either they have it or they don't, why try and improve it? If they don't have the high knee action then they are good candidates for the pleasure cart class. That is why shows have different divisions to fit the different style of horse, so why resort to devices. Will the horse world and people ever learn to leave well enough alone?
____________________ LaVonne Summertime Stables, LLC Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a grave in a well preserved body But rather to slide in sideways, Totally worn out, Yelling......What a Ride ! |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20th, 2008 12:25 am |
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TessieB Ranch Hand 
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What are these people thinking! It's a Mini for heaven's sake! Just how high are they supposed to step?e1
____________________ I scream, you scream, we all scream for a gaiting machine! |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19th, 2008 10:52 pm |
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ssecmft G.O.G Community Member
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I recieved a second e-mail. They asked how I felt about bell boots. Needless to say, but my asnswer was a definate, no. I asked if they had read the history behind the breeding of these small horses. I also explained my feelings on any mechanical devise that is used to enhance an unnatural gait, to include weighted shoes. We'll see what they say.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19th, 2008 10:40 pm |
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Ilovedraftandgaitedhorses G.O.G Community Member 
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I sent them a email and they just dont get it i got a responce about how safe and light they are! im still steaming angry for the sake of thoose poor mini,s s2
____________________ I have a wonderful twh mare named Rosie :) |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19th, 2008 08:52 pm |
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ssecmft G.O.G Community Member
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Just got an e-mail from the mini tack folks. They tried explaining about the weight and how the chains don't hit the hock, just the hoof. Needless to say, a second nasty gram was sent to them.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19th, 2008 02:50 pm |
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Ilovedraftandgaitedhorses G.O.G Community Member
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that made me want to cry im sending a email to remind them of fairness to animals m yself!s2 Last edited on Sun Oct 19th, 2008 02:51 pm by Ilovedraftandgaitedhorses ____________________ I have a wonderful twh mare named Rosie :) |
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