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| Posted: Sat Sep 2nd, 2006 06:05 pm |
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Brenda Im Pasture Boss 
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Here's what's going into our Next Going 4-Gait Gold. I've decided to make it a public policy statement. Gaits of Gold Supports Sound Horse Organizations Personal Note: After much thought, and no small amount of prayer, I've decided to make a public stand on issues surrounding our precious gaited horses. It is my hope that many of our Gaits of Gold family will join me on this new 'soapbox.' The USDA was an active force at the recent TWH Show and Celebration in Shelbyville, TN. The strong presence of USDA inspectors caused many trainers to load up and go home. Of those who stayed to show, enough were disqualified that the resulting furor caused show officials to stop classes on Friday night and much of Saturday. This was unprecedented in the history of the Show. The publicity surrounding these events offer those of us with a vested interest in the sound horse movement a prime opportunity for pushing our agenda for the humane treatment and training of all gaited horses. We can take advantage of the groundswell of interest, and use this as a catalyst for permanent change. Those of us who really care about this issue must be determined not to lose the momentum that has been generated! There's no end to the horror stories relating to sored horses - and evil practices are not limited to the TWH industry. We at Gaits of Gold believe horse owners can best take a stand against these practices by helping to demonstrate by word and practice the better, more humane, way of doing things. Simply arguing our point of view with someone whose beliefs and methods are contrary to sound horsemanship is futile, in the long run. Most people are drawn to light, and angry words do not shed any of that precious commodity. Two 'lights' that are doing an overall good job of helping to promote sound gaited horsemanship are Friends of the Sound Horse (FOSH), and the National Walking Horse Association (NWHA). Both organizations are committed to zero tolerance for artificial training devices and/or soring of horses. Both offer show venues for people who want to show sound horses. Have there been some individuals who have managed to slip some of these things past the organizations' watch dogs? You bet. People are people (or, as a friend says: "pipples be pipples.") But the overall goals and methods of these organizations are to be highly commended, and supported in whatever way possible. Both of these organizations struggle financially. There are Big Bucks in the Big Lick and other organizations that permit 'enhanced show gaits.' Not so with natural horse organizations. Trail riders don't pay to promote 'their' horses, and usually have limited interest in showing, where payment of fees to enter classes helps support the sponsoring entitites. Neither do we pay Big Bucks to Big Name 'trainers,' who also support the Bigger organization. Nevertheless, if we believe that there ought to be a stop to rewarding artificial gaits and the practices associated with them, then we owe it to our horses and our consciences to support this cause in some tangible manner. You may choose to become an educated judge, or DQP (show horse inspector). You can promote the organization(s) on your own web sites. You can put a bumper sticker on your car, or purchase a T-shirt that helps spread the word while helping to support the organization. Becoming actively involved doesn't need to be a full-time committment - but if you genuinely want to see an end to all the various forms of abuse, then for goodness sake, do something. At the very least, pay for a membership in one or both of these worthwhile organizations. Gaits of Gold, Inc. is investigating ways of becoming a more active and useful supporter of effective sound horse organizations. We will keep you updated when we've decided the best ways that we can become involved, and how that will affect you. Folks, let's put an end to sored horses in our lifetime!!! Information on Soring Practices Whenever this topic comes up you hear as a defense that not all Big Lick horses are sored. This is true. Many people who own B.L. horses pay to keep them with trainers whom they trust - but who nevertheless go behind closed doors with the horses and administer 'training aids' that the owner knows nothing about. Are the owners morally responsible for this? In my opinion, yes. When a person takes on the responsiblity of horse ownership, he or she is obliged to become educated as to the things that constitute good horsemanship, for the welfare of the animal. It is also my educated opinion that padded and chained horse training goes against the primary principles of responsible horsemanship. Even where no soring is involved, the horses suffer from pain and early biomechanical breakdown as a direct result of common training, shoeing, and tack practices. I am posting the following links in the hopes that as more people become personally familiar with Big Lick training practices (and these same types of things go on in virtually every breed related show venue), our readers will become motivated toward becoming actively involved in the Sound Horse Movement. Again: let's put a stop to sored horses in our lifetime!!! One brave whistle blower's story: http://www.silverphoenixranch.com/index_files/Page2089.htm What soring is really all about: Once you're through with the above article, replace the Page 2089 with 1156.htm. (Can't give the link here as it brings up code for a gog emoticon). Another thorough treatment: http://www.eagleridge-twh.com/soredhorses.htm Gaits of Gold family: we can make a difference. Let's go for it! I'll leave this topic open so that you can tell us what you've done to get involved. We will be sending out 'surprise' GOG gift items to some of you as a way of saying Thanx. Last edited on Sun Sep 3rd, 2006 03:52 pm by Brenda Im ____________________ Always forgive your enemies. It's good for you - and really messes with their heads! |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 2nd, 2006 08:52 pm |
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redwax G.O.G Community Member
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i have written ,called my congressman,i have spoken at rallies,given out copies of the HPA.when ever i get a chance .say NO to soring!!! i guess the best thing was when at a NC big lick,show,this trainer/rider( i know) was showing and i yelled out He uses MUSTARD OIL to make his horse walk like that.alot of Folks stoped to ask me what it was and why he did that.and Yes i was sure he did ,i had been in his barn with his family and i know the smell. He would use roller bearings too under the pads. redwax
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| Posted: Sun Sep 3rd, 2006 01:40 pm |
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lastchance Ranch Hand 
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I am a member of both FOSH and NWHA and I have never shown my TWHs. I send them money if I can even if it is only $5.00. I have written and emailed any and all people involved with this issue. I know it may sound contradictory but I am also a member of TWHBEA. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer!;) This way I can also lend a voice from within. They have gotten better about promoting the trail horse. I talk up my breed when ever I can and proudly wear my GOG "Go natural or go home" T-shirt everywhere! Jen
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| Posted: Mon Sep 4th, 2006 12:29 am |
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fancywalkerlady G.O.G Community Member 
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I belong to several naturally gaited horse groups on yahoo and we have decided to e-mail CNN to see if we can get them to do an update on their soring video from 20 years ago and a few of us have even went to Geraldo Rivera's site to suggest he do an investigation on the soring of the Walking Horses. We are making progress, even if it is just small steps right now, we are getting closer to seeing the end of soring these horses. I would like to see all abusive practices for all breeds of horses ended once and for all, but we will have to just keep at it and keep working and eventually we will see it happen. It sounds like this has hit them where it hurts the worst, in their pockets, and I've always said that is what it will take to put an end to all this garbage.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 4th, 2006 02:56 am |
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Brenda Im Pasture Boss
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DebbieH sent me the following informational URL. Everyone should go through this presentation by Dr. Behre, a courageous opponent to soring TWH's: http://www.tennessean.com/assets/pdf/DN4007893.PDF PB 
____________________ Always forgive your enemies. It's good for you - and really messes with their heads! |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 4th, 2006 01:58 pm |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 4th, 2006 03:22 pm |
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bel cavallo G.O.G Community Member
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I joined FOSH and have contacted our congressman. There is one barn in my area which I have heard referred to as a "torture chamber" by more than a few farriers, and I am looking in to which agency to best report it to, to prompt an investigation. It occured to me that if we can make an impression on the next generation, we will have a doubly effective approach: eradicating existing soring through regulation and enforcement, and preventing future soring through education. I've been printing out articles explaining the horrors of soring and giving them to young riders in my area.
____________________ "No hour of life is lost that is spent in the saddle" Winston Churchill |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 4th, 2006 04:17 pm |
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redwax G.O.G Community Member
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I tried posting the HPA Law on the bullentin board at local FEED story, they took it down so up it goes again. what a game!! but i'll keep doing it tell they leave it alone. DID YA KNOW!!! That soring is against the law! check-out ,HORSE PROTECTION ACT! google : HORSE PROTECTION ACT: then i sign it. redwax
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| Posted: Tue Sep 5th, 2006 12:56 am |
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twhstone G.O.G Community Member 
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A friend of mine showed up at a biglick twhbea show with her yearling to show in the flatshod halter class. She wore her FOSH shirt! I won't even participate in any show that has padded horses and tell everyone that will even listen about natural twhs. I'm also careful to look at breeding and try to find natural horses and people that breed them. I htink I will look into joining FOSH or NWHA. Thanks everyone for reminding me not to give up-
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| Posted: Fri Nov 14th, 2008 09:15 pm |
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T-N-T G.O.G Community Member 
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Today I came to the sight to try and figure out what it was called when the horses I saw on youtube (looking at TWHers) look like they are practically sitting with there front legs up so high and how you would get a horse to that since it looks SOOO unnatural. I'm in tears now... and completly at a loss as how anyone could do those things to my (our) best friends. You can bet I will be joining those FOSH ect. and looking alot more into all of this! Trouble troubled
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| Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2009 03:57 pm |
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Got Gait G.O.G Community Member
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I was on another messageboard and we got on the subject of soring. I don't know if this is something new in place of soring or if it has been happening for a while but a gal bought a padded horse with the pads on and she got it home and removed the pads and found bolts in them. So when the horse put his feet down he would step on the bolts. Apperantly they use bb's as well. It not as bad as the soring they said. WHAT!!!!! Imagine putting these items in your shoes.s2
____________________ 'All creatures great and small, the lord god made them all" |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2009 04:07 pm |
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redhorsemama G.O.G Community Member 
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Called pressure shoeing.....one of the more insidious forms of soring...according to the website of the HIO sponsoring the Celebration (can't recall the name of the org), it will be dealt with more severely than other forms of abuse. My guess is that it's because the package has to be removed for detection. Would be nice if this person reported what she found to the authorities. You can bet that if her new horse had these 'enhancements', others at that barn do, too.
____________________ RedHorseMama@Cup-a-Joe Farm Home of Kaydie, Ginger, Sunni, Raven and the much beloved and ever irascible, Joe |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2009 10:00 pm |
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Got Gait G.O.G Community Member
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Yeah, I brought that up to her and guess what her response was? I don't want to because I want to still be in with the in crowd. I told her she was like a high school kid and ended conversaition with her and the messageboard.
____________________ 'All creatures great and small, the lord god made them all" |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 2nd, 2009 03:04 am |
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redhorsemama G.O.G Community Member
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Maybe she'll at least do better by her own horse........and maybe, just maybe, one day her conscience will kick in.
____________________ RedHorseMama@Cup-a-Joe Farm Home of Kaydie, Ginger, Sunni, Raven and the much beloved and ever irascible, Joe |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 2nd, 2009 10:41 am |
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Got Gait G.O.G Community Member
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We casn only hope. I had a man get made at me on that board becaused I asked him when and why did the padding of horses come into play. And why do you do it? He asked me why I trail rode? Well hummm, My horse is not stuck in a stall with wedged pads on his front feet.
____________________ 'All creatures great and small, the lord god made them all" |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 5th, 2009 01:00 pm |
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Nelliebly G.O.G Community Member 
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Got Gait wrote: I was on another messageboard and we got on the subject of soring. I don't know if this is something new in place of soring or if it has been happening for a while but a gal bought a padded horse with the pads on and she got it home and removed the pads and found bolts in them. So when the horse put his feet down he would step on the bolts. Apperantly they use bb's as well. It not as bad as the soring they said. WHAT!!!!! Imagine putting these items in your shoes.s2 Placing the bolts in pads is done to "give a higher knee action". Every time the horse puts its foot down, it creates excessive concussion, forcing the foot to be picked up quicker and higher. This excessive concussion in turn creates a condition referred to as "road founder" (actual term should be "mechanical founder").
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| Posted: Thu Apr 9th, 2009 04:53 pm |
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kykim G.O.G Community Member
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i was talking to a DQP at the state 4h show last year, asking if he saw an improvement or not in soring and he said "soring wasn't a problem". he didn't mean at 4h shows, he meant showing in general and expressly said the issues at shelbyville, tn was an overreaction. this is from the DQP! can you believe it! also, even at 4h shows i saw illegally shod horses, my daughter's was legal and got high point in her division. it can be done right and if it can't you don't do it at all. integrity has to count for something.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10th, 2009 09:49 am |
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Ice House G.O.G Community Member
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most dqp's are locals themselves and play favorites. I know of one that wants to get licensed for the sole reason of racking up on the bribes given by trainers to pass their sore horses. People like this need to be weeded out, and unfortunately it is more common than I once thought.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15th, 2009 03:26 pm |
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kykim G.O.G Community Member
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its sad, everythings about money. the presentation about soring by dr behre is excellent, if only large fines could support enforcement and eliminate the bad dqp's.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 11:38 pm |
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TessieB Ranch Hand 
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Wouldn't you know a Big Lick Barn popped up a few miles down the road from me.....plotting and planning.....
____________________ I scream, you scream, we all scream for a gaiting machine! |
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