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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 05:08 pm |
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crs trail rider Ranch Hand 
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Went through inspections before a show for the first time this past weekend. I was expecting the leg inspection so that didnt surprise me. (Im a naturalist - dont even like clipping them unless it is for their comfort) But I was surprised when they told me I had to unsaddle for inspection. I did but asked why- cause I wanted to know- Its a big enough pain to saddle up and make sure everything is straight at your stall than to do it again when you get to the warm up ring. Anyway I was told that a couple of years ago someone was found to be putting spurs (or something like spurs) under the saddle blanket/saddle so had to make sure nothing was under there. WHATTTTTT??????? I guess I am just not competitive enough. I dont get it. I just dont. Its a stupid ribbon/trophy/points. If it is because you want more money breeding- its false advertising- and while it might not be found out for a few years- it will eventually come out. I never got the soaring either or the pads, or the peanut rollers (there is a regular practice of tying a horses head up high all night long in order for his neck muscles to be tired so the horse drops it down)or the four beat lopes, or the tail blocking or the tail setting ... I guess the list goes on and on. I will say that while everyone seemed to be taking care of their horses and really seemed to CARE about their horses I seemed to be the only one actively carrying conversations with my guys, and spending free time w/them in the stall. Maybe I am the weird one (I am always fussing at my daughter saying she needs to talk to her horse more as she is doing stuff- she told me that while she watched me in the trail class she could see me talking to Jenny the WHOLE time. Of course I was she was a nervous wreck. I think its the only thing that kept her from falling totally apart and me too) But not all of it was nice- there were a few youre such a brat comments too. : )
____________________ Its rarely the horses fault- Its usually a failure of the rider to communicate their requests in a manner that the horse can understand. Lisa |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 05:27 pm |
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whattarack Pasture Boss 
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But not all of it was nice- there were a few youre such a brat comments too. : ) You crack me up! The "B" word I called Taylor when she acted up certainly was not Brat. w2 I'm so glad for you that you had this experience. Did you grow a little? I know you did. Get this, I've ridden with folks that talk to their horse excessively and sometimes I wanna say, "Would you please SHUT Up!?" not only for my sake but for their horse's sake. It is so nerve wracking to hear all the jabbering. Then again, I have talked to mine too. Yak, yak, yak Still, I most admire the riders that speak with their bodies and get a response from the horse. They are beautiful. I like to think of riding as dancing. There are so many dances to experience. . . . . and then there's the mosh pit!
____________________ Being Offended is Optional. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 05:47 pm |
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crs trail rider Ranch Hand
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Well I called her Alpo too at one point. And I think Twit was used too. I usually reserve the other B word for an actual rear, attempt to bite, or a bucking session. But sometims it is prefaced with a worse word...  She was only attempting to rear in the warm up area so I restrained my name calling : ) Brat was used when she bucked when I asked her to back in the ring. It was an education and I definately learned something a bunch of somethings  About gaited horse shows, about my horse and what she wont tolerate and what her absolute worst behavior will probably be. And it wasnt too bad, not great by a long shot but controllable and not dangerous. and I do talk and talk and talk. I also listen well too. Hey at least I dont sing. I did ride w/someone that whenever something became the least bit stressful would start singing to her horse. Fortunately she could hold a tune : )
____________________ Its rarely the horses fault- Its usually a failure of the rider to communicate their requests in a manner that the horse can understand. Lisa |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 05:49 pm |
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GypsySusan G.O.G Community Member 
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This is so funny - I talk to Shadow and sometimes not verbally, especially when I'm "bratting" her. The other day, my trainer was riding Magic to get him ready and after the ride, he said, "well, he's getting much better. I yelled at him the whole time in my head." Last week, my trainer's wife was with him when he came to ride Magic. After practice, I let her ride Shadow as she's never ridden a gaited horse. She said, "I'm so glad you use verbal cues. I'm not all that good with talking to them in my head - like Troy." So, maybe it's a woman thing outloud and a man thing, otherwise. l1
____________________ Susan http://www.gypsytrotters.com Phil 4:11-13, 19 Missouri Fox Trotters: To Ride One... Is to Own One. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 06:35 pm |
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GoinGaited G.O.G Community Member 
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GypsySusan wrote: So, maybe it's a woman thing outloud and a man thing, otherwise. l1 I don't think so.....cuz I have a male riding buddy that yaks to his horse all the time. I does get to be a little much sometimes. I like the quiet. But then - he and his horse usually aren't seeing life the same way either. lol crs - seems to me somewhere I read, or someone told me, that if you're nervous - you should sing on the trail. Sposta help with the nerves..... I probably oughta try it sometimes.... t2
____________________ Life is short, so ENJOY the RIDE! |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 06:42 pm |
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whattarack Pasture Boss
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I have a refrigerator magnet from my friend, Stephanie. She knows me well. It reads: Without Just a little is easy on the ears, too. w2
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 06:49 pm |
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GoinGaited G.O.G Community Member
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lol whatta I have these 'candies' for my migraines. They kinda just make everything 'right'....and I just don't seem to care much about anything when I take them.... it's a rather pleasant 'numb' feeling. I've contemplated taking one when I ride..... might help that fear of getting hurt - since nothings sposta hurt with those! l1
____________________ Life is short, so ENJOY the RIDE! |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 06:59 pm |
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whattarack Pasture Boss
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l1 If you decide to Go For It!; Give me a call and we'll do it together! Rule # 96 in my life's handbook reads, Thou shalt not ........ Get stoned alone.  WHAT!!!?????? SPURS UNDER THE SADDLE AND A COUPLE STONED GALS UNDER THE HORSE! w2 Sorry, I'm trying to turn this thread back around to . . . Stop the Soring b1 I'll go find something productive to do . . . . b1 I never would have thought you'ld have to pull your saddle for inspection. But, I'm glad they are looking everywhere and not just at the legs. We'll never know all about soring because we don't do it.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 08:36 pm |
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crs trail rider Ranch Hand
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Whatta- Im glad Im not the only one going stir crazy. I am getting up this afternoon (now) and go check on the horses. And I am glad they are checking, I am just very sad and really angry that it is necessary. Stupid humans.
____________________ Its rarely the horses fault- Its usually a failure of the rider to communicate their requests in a manner that the horse can understand. Lisa |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2010 02:04 am |
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sdlepal Ranch Hand 
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CRS, what kind of shows has inspections? I never heard of this unless it was like an endurance ride. Do they do this at all gaited shows?
____________________ Pam and Cowboy Casey |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2010 02:11 am |
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crs trail rider Ranch Hand
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This is the first time I encountered it (but I actually encountered at the ACTHA ride too just not for the same reasons) but I believe it is a USDA cert. inspector checking for soaring or any other leg injury that might have been sustained in order to alter the gait. And now for stuff under the saddle and its only at gaited shows. This one was sponsored by FOSH( I think that is the right acronym) If you left the warm up area you had to be reinspected. The ACTHA ride was a vet check at the end of the ride to check for soundness - like an endurance ride.
____________________ Its rarely the horses fault- Its usually a failure of the rider to communicate their requests in a manner that the horse can understand. Lisa |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2010 02:20 am |
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sdlepal Ranch Hand
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Thanks for explaining. Some times I am slow!
____________________ Pam and Cowboy Casey |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2010 11:15 am |
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Amy G.O.G Community Member
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Wow you got a DQP that actually does their job??? It's obvious the DQP at this show was more concerned with Who's who then with doing their job. People can be so heartless to be able to watch this let alone DO this to a horse, much less GET on this horse. I will understand if it has to be deleted but I will just keep finding other venues to go with it. I just recieved this and as requested I am passing it along where I can to get the word out. Keep passing this on. Holding the horse in the photo is the wife of Ted Nichols - Glenda. Heart of America Walking Horse Association Ted Nichols, President P.O. Box 579 Ozark, MO 65721 Standing on a fruit jar/standing in a bucket, in the basement, standing in a hat, how ever you want to sum it up this horse is extremely sore and exhibiting at the Iowa Cornbelt Walking Horse Show this past May. The picture has made it's rounds on the internet but maybe the faces needed their names posted as well. We know how the DQP game is played and if they can't do their job and the riders/owners don't have a conscience, then maybe we can do it for them. http://stopsoring.com/hiolist.html
Attachment: Sored.jpg (Downloaded 122 times) Last edited on Thu Jul 1st, 2010 11:22 am by Amy |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2010 11:22 am |
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Amy G.O.G Community Member
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So what good are requiring DQP's at shows when this passes? Absolutely heartless. Last edited on Thu Jul 1st, 2010 11:24 am by Amy |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2010 05:55 pm |
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crs trail rider Ranch Hand
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That is a truly horrible picture and the horse looks to be in a great amount of discomfort. But I am wondering- based on the quality of the picture- it looks like a scanned photo- how old it is? Not that I doubt for a minute that this stuff is still going on in some areas. Since show dress in the english pleasure/plantation pleasure doesnt seem to have changed much-(like stock wp which changes yearly I think - you can tell which decade the wp classes were by the color of the tack, amount of silver and the amount of "bling" the riders are wearing) its hard to tell the age of the picture. I am always leary of pictures that have circulated the internet as to the authenticity of the story behind the picture. Not saying the picture isnt real- it clearly is- but the story that is now associated with it may not be. Having said that- I go back to saying - shame on anyone who has abused or hurt a horse in the name of winning a stupid class for whatever reason (a ribbon, prestige or the root of all evil money) There will be a special place for when they leave this world.
____________________ Its rarely the horses fault- Its usually a failure of the rider to communicate their requests in a manner that the horse can understand. Lisa |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2010 11:14 am |
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Amy G.O.G Community Member
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Photo is from May this year, horse placed third in a class of 3, Amatuer Stakes. This is in the heart of the midwest, Iowa, not where one would usually think of seeing this type of ABUSE. Show results are online.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2010 11:18 am |
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Amy G.O.G Community Member
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I forwarded everything to Fugly Horse Blog. She's verifying it before she posts it to her blog. In the mean time I am going to apply for training for DQP and see if I can actually DO something to stop this crap. It would be my pleasure to confront people that do this
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| Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2010 12:00 pm |
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crs trail rider Ranch Hand
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Poor Poor horse. The only way to truly fix this is to educate the judges. If they DQ the horses that are wearing these shoes/or have been sored and award the natural way of going it WILL stop, it would be much more effective than the laws even. The judges in the past CREATED this problem by awarding blues to horses going this way in the first place. As long as it is being rewarded in the show ring all of these type of abusive treatments will continue. But the judges are often guilty of doing the same things to their horses sooo. And its not just the TWH judges that are awarding bad practices. And I stand corrected- just a google search brings up farms that are proudly displaying pics of their horses in full pads and chains. And there is a blogger who wants to do a blog soon on the practice of pads and chains because it is much "maligned and understood" REALLY?????? Going out to tell my horses how good they have it. LOL Last edited on Fri Jul 2nd, 2010 12:57 pm by crs trail rider ____________________ Its rarely the horses fault- Its usually a failure of the rider to communicate their requests in a manner that the horse can understand. Lisa |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 6th, 2010 12:50 am |
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Ice House G.O.G Community Member
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For those of you wondering why you must remove the saddle. A trainer was caught using a shocking device while going through inspection. He had a button in his hand which signaled a device under the saddle which distracted the horse from pain in the hoof while it was being checked.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 6th, 2010 01:02 am |
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liteshodwalkers G.O.G Community Member 
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Just when I thought I had heard and seen it all, they come up with more ways to torture these poor animals. This is the first I have heard of a shock device under the saddle. I would like to take each and every one of these sadistic son of a #itches and inflict the same pain and torture on them and see how long they can handle it before they break. Sorry all . . .this infuriates and nauseates me to no end!!!
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