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| Posted: Tue Jun 29th, 2010 03:19 am |
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ladysrider G.O.G Community Member 
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My new TWH mare (12 yrs. old) has a scar on the heel of one of her front hooves and bald spots on the back of both of her back heels. I didn't even think about soring until I looked her up in the TWHBEA iPeds and found she had been shown early in her life. Would they sore a yearling? I can't think of any other reason for her to have the bald spots and she is very nervous about people checking out her back hooves (I'm working on this slowly!). The only other thing I could think of would be hobbles, but would they create scars and bald spots?
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| Posted: Tue Jun 29th, 2010 01:13 pm |
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whattarack Pasture Boss 
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I don't know how soon a horse might be put on pads but I doubt it as yearling. Also, I doubt that she was put in hobbles. Unfortunately most horses are not trained to be hobbled these days. To me, it would be more likely that she got caught in a fence, had her legs caught under a stall door, or something like that. I wonder if abcesses can leave scars? My own horses have never had an abcess but one we kept here for years had lots of abcesses when she was young. I really don't think horses are sored that young. I pray not anyway. I wonder if there is a product that might help heal the scar?
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| Posted: Tue Jun 29th, 2010 10:11 pm |
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liteshodwalkers G.O.G Community Member 
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The guy I purchased my small bay TWH mare from was riding her at 15 months s2 He did have some of his colts up on pads at 15 to 18 months of age and working them. I hated him for what he was doing to those babies but there wasn't a darn thing I could do, short of buying them and I couldn't afford them at the time. This individual was considered a "trainer" and I have found his name on the suspended list that was posted a while ago. For some people, it's all about the money and prestige of that darn piece of material ribbon. There is no feeling or thought for the animal and what they are going through. ladysrider, I hate to say it but there is a good probability that she had been sored as early as a yearling. While I know we would love to go back in time and change that part of her life all we can do is understand what may have happened and work hard to build up a trust with her so that she will know that no one will ever do that to her again. As for the scars and bald spots I truly don't know of anything that will help restore the hair. I do so hope that someone on the board will know of something as one of my mares has injured herself pawing on the high tensile fence and has sliced her feet up. While they have healed there is evidence of scarring which precludes her from being shown.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 29th, 2010 11:39 pm |
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Ice House G.O.G Community Member
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very very very unlikely.. photo would help
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 12:10 am |
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liteshodwalkers G.O.G Community Member
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I agree . . .photo's would help but respectfully disagree with it being unlikely 
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| Posted: Sat Jul 3rd, 2010 01:01 am |
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ozhorse G.O.G Community Member
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Have you ridden her much yet? Perhaps she has had problems with over-reach and her back feet have clipped her front heels often at some time in the past? I had a horse that had a really nasty deep scar and he re-injured himself badly when I first owned him before I learned he needed special shoeing to prevent his hind feet cutting his front heels open. Improperly fitting overreach boots could cause permanent bare spots if used often.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 3rd, 2010 02:28 am |
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TN Trailrider G.O.G Community Member 
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Back in the early 80's, I purchased my first TWH, a 14-mo old filly from a TWH breeder who also showed them. While looking at his horses, he had a 15-mo old one in cross ties, with slightly built-up feet. She had been under the weather so they decided they woud ride her while she was in the barn. I told him I was concerned about the damage being done to her knees because of the extra weight on her hoofs and working her hard. He asked why, and I said because her knees haven't closed yet. He had no idea what I mean and I had to show him. He dismissed the whole idea as nonsense. And he was considered a respected horseman! Yeah, right. So don't discount the idea that at such a young age, she may have been sored (or had chains put on her). These guys will do anything to win.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 3rd, 2010 11:46 am |
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whattarack Pasture Boss
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I was thinking of anything that might improve the appearance of the scar and bring back the hair. I haven't tried either of these but my friend swears by Desitin and my niece swears by old bacon grease. I wonder too if MTG will help?
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| Posted: Sat Jul 3rd, 2010 12:33 pm |
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liteshodwalkers G.O.G Community Member
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Good Morning Whatta  I have used bacon grease years ago when I owned QH's. If bacon grease was applied to a fresh scrape it did promote hair growth to that area. I have tried everything (to include MSG) on my big "moose" mare that has the obsession with ripping up her feet. I haven't found anything that will promote hair regrowth on the scarred areas I don't want to have the scar site messed with anymore so will live with the fact that I can never show her (scar rule).
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| Posted: Sat Jul 3rd, 2010 12:53 pm |
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whattarack Pasture Boss
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G'morning, Liteshod, I used Maderma on myself and the scarring is better is some places but shows no improvement in other places. Do you think that stuff would help a horse? It would be an expensive trial if it didn't. Too bad the scar rules exists because of the penalty it causes to someone who would never harm a horse. Does the scar rule keep a horse from showing in light shod classes, too or just in the padded classes?
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| Posted: Sat Jul 3rd, 2010 01:02 pm |
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jimmy G.O.G Community Member
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lsw, the scar rule is for horses that have been sored, not for horses that have been injured and have scars. You can show your horse anywhere you like.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 3rd, 2010 01:07 pm |
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liteshodwalkers G.O.G Community Member
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The no scar rule eliminates horses in ALL classes. There have been instances of people soring liteshod and keg shod horses at different shows It just never ceases to amaze me what some people will do for the sake of a darn ribbon s2 My Vet (recently deceased) had prescribed Anamax(sp) for her wounds. The first time she took a chunk off of her foot, this stuff did work a little bit. Quite expensive when you can find a place that carries it (prescription). When it happened again the scar tissue just wouldn't generate hair growth anymore.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 3rd, 2010 01:15 pm |
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liteshodwalkers G.O.G Community Member
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jimmy wrote: lsw, the scar rule is for horses that have been sored, not for horses that have been injured and have scars. You can show your horse anywhere you like. Hi jimmy  I haven't shown in a long time so they may have eased the rules somewhat. I had a very dear friend attend a big show in VA. Her horse has always been barefoot or keg shod. The horse had a scrap from a trail ride incident and they SUSPENDED her! She has never owned nor does she support padded horses. This incident devastated her. I have thought of getting a certified letter from the Vet which states the scars are from injuries but to be honest I just don't want to deal with the hassles. I do know that our club adheres to the no scar rule and the DQP follows those rules. bonnie
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| Posted: Sat Jul 3rd, 2010 01:16 pm |
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jimmy G.O.G Community Member
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lsw, i have been trough the dqp program. a horse cannot be turned down for scars from injury. a scar or scars caused by soring looks different, than the ones from injury.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 3rd, 2010 01:20 pm |
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liteshodwalkers G.O.G Community Member
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Wow, that is wonderful to hear. It has bothered me for a long time thinking that this mare's tendency to hurt herself would preclude her from possibly being shown. BTW - Where are you from (state)? Oh . . .welcome to the board
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| Posted: Sat Jul 3rd, 2010 01:25 pm |
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whattarack Pasture Boss
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yeh, Hi Jimmy. Welcome to the board. I hope you'll introduce yourself in a new thread under the new members say hello topic so everyone can welcome you.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 3rd, 2010 01:29 pm |
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jimmy G.O.G Community Member
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the dqp's are checking horse at the shows now more than ever. thats why there only a few horses in the classes. as for your friend i don't know but the scars have to be on both feet to be out on the rule.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 3rd, 2010 01:37 pm |
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jimmy G.O.G Community Member
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ladyrider, i would bet your horses scars are caused from the trainer keeping big chains on the back feet to get more of what ever gait they wanted, and the chains caused the horse to overstep and cut its heal.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 4th, 2010 06:48 am |
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ladysrider G.O.G Community Member
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You could be right. Unless I try to get the old owners to talk with me (if they even remember the horse), I'll probably never know her entire history. As it is, the last 2 owners didn't transfer her registration with TWHBEA, and I'm trying to get the last "official" owner to sign off on the transfer paperwork. The scars don't seem to bother her, other than she's nervous about people fiddling with her back feet (working on it!).
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| Posted: Mon Jul 5th, 2010 06:05 pm |
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Ice House G.O.G Community Member
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you aint gotta have big chains to have a horse step up on itself. I deal with plenty that have a back end big enough to do this. Alot of it has to do with the rider and shoeing. I suggest talking to the previous owner, you can get a better idea from him than asking a buncha folks that are making assumptions. No picture yet? What is the point of goin on and on about it...
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