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 Posted: Thu Oct 6th, 2011 12:52 pm
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It's not that I don't ride the rest of the year. It where and what we ride on that allows me to go barefoot the rest of the year. We ride every month of the year. Just not 3-4 days in a row on the extremely rocky terrain.

In the winter months with snow on the ground, Rocks are not a problem and a steel shoe is too slick anyway. So unless I'm going to put drill tec or borium on the shoes, The horses are better off barefoot.


Watching the wild buffalo on the Tavaputs Plateau.


Watching the deer and elk



Searching for wild mustangs


And my horses always seems to enjoy a day out of the corral

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OMG!! All you look as if you are out for a liesurely fall stroll. Am I just a complete wus or is it not as cold there as it is here?

If i did dare to venture out during the cold months, i would be so bundled that i am not sure i could sit a horse. I would not be wearing a cowboy hat, but some wool cap, I am sure with ear muffs.

But do agree that scenery would be worth me freezing just to view it one time!



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 Posted: Thu Oct 6th, 2011 10:57 pm
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PH: Those winter pics bring flash backs. When I was stationed in Minot ND, we would go to WY and MT, in the winter and rent horses to go trail riding. Thanks for the memories!!!

We did see some mustangs in WY. We could get pretty close to them with the horses, as long as no one talked. I wish I would have taken much more pictures :(.

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I'll admit to trying to pick better days than worse days to ride. The Wild horse photos actually has a herd of mustangs over by the cliffs. The middle rider is pointing at them. But you can't see them in the photo. That picture was taken the last weekend of February. There had been 2 feet of snow one week earlier. It had melted off and we only had what you see in the photo. So we had a warm spell. But it snowed big time that night and we had a wild ride home on the hiways as it snowed sidewizes for most of the drive home.

Same thing with the Buffalo photo. It was been -15° the week before and two feet of snow. The day we came out it got up to 30° and bright sun and most of the snow on the west faces had melted off. And we found the buffalo hnaging out on the South and West faces where the snow had melted.

The day we took the photo of the elk it was -6°F. So it was cold.

But if you live in cold climates, You just learn to dress for the cold. And no horse shoes needed in the snow.

And the horses get wooly

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Painted Horse wrote: But if you live in cold climates, You just learn to dress for the cold. And no horse shoes needed in the snow.

If I remember right, it seems the winters in Montana are very cold, well below zero degrees, but the air is dry and crisp, so it does not feel "so cold" when you layer up.  Here in NC, the winters feel wet, even though it might be somewhat between 10-30 degrees above zero.  The "wet" air just feels colder than the dry air out in Montana.

Painted Horse, I like how you can view the science of barefoot and shod with the needs of your horses in each season. 

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Noellee, you are so right about the dampness in the air, definately makes a difference to me too.

Man PH, somebody needs to get Tom Selleck out there to make another great western movie with your gaited horses. Especially need to film a great scene in that sandstone canyon w/the stream. Just gorgeous!

I'm going to have to calculate the fuel costs to drive the 4 cyl. to your place next summer to 'help' you ride your horses!r1

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Thanks Painted for the awesome pictures!  I really liked the one where the horse was rolling in the snow.



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Pam, They are just making snow angels. Some thing they all do after getting sweaty in the winter.

Lakota, That's Butch Cassidy and the Wild Bunch country. Unless you want Tom to play an outlaw, probably not the right charactor for him to play. It is still some of the most remote land in the lower 48 states.

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Lakota wrote:
Noellee, you are so right about the dampness in the air, definately makes a difference to me too.

Man PH, somebody needs to get Tom Selleck out there to make another great western movie with your gaited horses. Especially need to film a great scene in that sandstone canyon w/the stream. Just gorgeous!

I'm going to have to calculate the fuel costs to drive the 4 cyl. to your place next summer to 'help' you ride your horses!r1


Don't you think the GOG gang can have the trail ride next year with Jon? I'd be up for it.



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OK, PH and Noellee:  any experience with Old Mac's G2 Multi-Purpose? Good or bad? My Paso fino's toe length is under 3", so he needs a smaller height style. Everyone seems to have problems with the styles that have  the cables and clamps.

PH, any more photos? This is Tenn's muddy season and I need to ride vacuously though your pictures. Being from NY, I never thought I would miss the frost.

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curliesrule wrote: OK, PH and Noellee:  any experience with Old Mac's G2 Multi-Purpose? Good or bad? My Paso fino's toe length is under 3", so he needs a smaller height style. Everyone seems to have problems with the styles that have  the cables and clamps.

Hi curliesrule :)

I have not tried the Old Mac types... did try the new Easy Boot Trail on a QH.  It was okay, a little floppy, the boot top was higher up over entire hoof, there were no sores or blisters afterwards on the first ride.  I did not like this style as well as others I have tried.  It was more of walk easy boot, IMHO.

Right now, the Easy Boot Gloves are working well for one QH and our TWH mare, and these boots are a smaller height, if I am understanding your post correctly.  No clamps or cables, but if you are going to to be galloping or racking fast, the power straps and hoof tape wrap help greatly to keep the boot firmly in place.

The Easy Boot Edge has clamps and I DO like this boot... you need to carry the clamp key and remember to tighten the clamp on breaks, then the boot stays on good.  I use this boot for two of the mature QHs and for my TWH, Rain.

Rain does excellent in these Edge boots.  Gaits better than when shod. I use the Edge on his front hooves only.  No forging, the boots stay on well, he does good in any forest or rocky trails, gaits or racks nicely down the road or open paths.

I can post pictures of their hooves and what boots seem to fit best.  Rain's feet are still in transit barefoot, been about 4mos since I removed shoes.  He was the horse with deep sulcus thrush and high, contracted heels, resolved now, but his hoof shape is changing as the frog expands more into a heart shape and the heels/toes balance down better with wear inbetween trims.  The Easy Boot Gloves were way too "small and short" on him, but the Edge was perfect. 

Maybe post a picture of your Paso's hoof shape from the top and side view, and I might be able to tell which boot type might work based on our five horses gone barefoot and what stays put and fits best so far.

I have to say, I am not minding one bit riding in boots.  Very happy with the barefoot transit and how nice the hooves are coming along for each horse. 

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Thanks Noellee :).

Me... post a picture?  I can fix computers (hardware) but when it comes to software I'm lucky I can bring up my email ::).  The problem with this poor little guy, is he was a rescue. He was beaten and staved; and had foundered in his LF foot. I removed his shoes and have been given him natural barefoot trims.  His other 3 feet are doing well, but I still have some flaring on the LF. The toe callus is now gone but there is still a small toe hole left.  As soon as that gets reshaped I can measure for boots.  The founder created a sunken foot, which  has been building up sole over the last year. When I get the hoof shaped correctly, my vet and I will xray it. I know the coffin bone (P3) is still in place, I just need to see how much sole he has underneath (I've measured the collateral groove, but I want to make sure on the sole depth). I'll have to use boots; and depending on the films how much padding to add. His frogs and digital cushions are coming along nicely, they're getting thick and tough. He'll just need added sole protection for about another year for that LF.

He's a fast little sucker!!!  he has more stamina than brains through. He'd make a great endurance horse for a small rider. I've ridden him in a roundpen on grass. When I start to take him out on the road I will need to boot and pad him. I know you and PH have tried them all!!! The one picture PH had of that boot was a little scary. That's good to know about the boots with gaits. His running walk/or Paso llano? (here is where I need help from the Paso owners), is wild :shock:.  He apparently was made to go from 0-60 on the first step. We have been working on the slow and calm down cue. So I will need boots that can stand up to his motions. So you think the glove or edge style would be the best? Thanks for all your input.

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curliesrule wrote: So I will need boots that can stand up to his motions. So you think the glove or edge style would be the best? 

Sorry to hear about your Paso's ordeal, but you are truly doing well by him! You could check out Happy Hoof Pads... http://www.happyhoofpads.com/ to see if they have some good ideas for him on the right padding with his boots.  My PBHT uses their pads for a number of rehab clients, she has with great success with  foundering and other cases, getting the horse back to riding or comfort.

Rain has a very high-vibe output too, really moves his legs fast... can fall into a range of speeds, jumps at a gait on the trail over fallen logs. He tends to pick his feet up very well in the Edge boots. Nice timing of a 4-beat with all four hooves so there is no forging.  And he loved these boots, was a natural right off in the Edge and the fit was good right off because I could adjust the boot's tightness. 

Easy Boots has a 30 day warranty and trial period.  The Edge boots are very easy to put on and can be adjusted... and would probably be better if there is flare to work out, plus more room for the padding as needed.  The Gloves are very tightly fitted from the moment you have to slip these on so the hoof needs to have a nice rounded, tight and beveled toe.  I am almost inclined to suggest the Edge (without seeing the hoof, but just on your Paso's needs).  You would need to measure the hoof as suggested on their website to determine the size boot.  Their reps might help confirm if this would be the right boot.

 

 

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Curliesrule, Google Hoofwings and look at what they have.  They are very expensive, but are totally geared towards the barefoot horse.  I've talked to the lady on the phone.  They have the best size ranges I've seen, and the only ones that would fit my Rocky's front hooves.  The boots are a 2-part boot consisting of a sole, and then a wrap around neoprene.  You send her tracings, measurements, etc., and if need be she will put little rubber shims in the closest boot size and as the hoof changes you can cut the shims out.   While the cost of a boot is very expensive, she said that as the horse's hoofs change in shape, she takes back the sole part and you can purchase a new one, or she'll trade for one that someone else might have returned as their horses needed refitting.  The cost of the heavier sole part is much less expensive than the whole boot configuration as you're not needing to replace the whole boot.  I haven't yet decided on total barefoot, so I'm not yet willing to pay that much for the boots.  I left Sam unshod for 4 months during the hot summer and his hoof changed shape ever so slightly that now I can get an Epic on his fronts so may just go shod during the heavy riding season and boot for the times I don't ride a lot (winter and summer).  Be prepared to pend a lot of time on the phone with this lady as she loves to talk and give her opinions on everything. 



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Curliesrule, on the subject of Paso gaits, I prefer to call the gaits by American terminology. If you have the Gaited Horse Bible, Brenda spells out all the gaits and really that is the easiest way to describe them & all that is needed. It's clear cut and effective.

The Peruvians have their terms and the Finos have theirs, and it all seems like too much micro terminology not to mention it's in a foriegn language. These may be spanish horses, but I find it appropriate to describe the gaits in english so I wouldn't worry about the spanish terms.:)

 

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