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 Posted: Mon Nov 29th, 2010 09:11 pm
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I use HerbnHorse for my raspberry leaves and old horse herb blend.

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ladysrider thanks for the link.  I have bookmarked it:)

Jaeda and others with possible metabolic horses, I just stumbled on this link that I have saved in the wrong folder::)

It's a well-written, easy-to-understand article on insulin resistance.

http://www.forloveofthehorse.com/articles/ir.php

 

 

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 Posted: Mon Dec 6th, 2010 08:29 pm
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stormzgaitzrgr8 wrote: ... I think it's called insulin resistance that creates this symptom along with overweight, anxiety, and a tendency to founder.. I began treating him with Quiessence, a magnesium based supplement 2 1/2 years ago. The problem disappeared..

Thanks for this tip, Tracey... I have a wonderful QH gelding with the cresty neck, far too easy-keeper, (he is very calm though).  Both vet and farrier showed me the crest, and how to watch for early foundering.  He has been on a dry lot most days throughout the year, free-choice hay, little oats, and he would stay in weight shape with lots of mountain trail riding.  He is just a great horse.  But he got kicked in the shoulder 4 mos ago (Sweeney Shoulder developed), and we have been mending that situation.  The damaged nerve is healed, and he is ready for more movement to rebuild the collapsed muscle, but not ready to ride.  In the meanwhile he has put on too much weight from no riding, just rest in the corral and barn.  So the plan now is to turn him out for the winter on the rolling pasture 2-6 hrs per day for various low-key moves without hard workouts to acclimate him.  And of course, I worry about that crest as the pasture is about 15 acres. 

I recently ordered the Quiessence after reading about your results.  In as little as a week, the crest is significantly down, almost looks normal, no longer hard either.  He is still overweight, but hopefully that will come down too.  I was surprised to see it work so fast though!  But maybe that also tells me the "cresty" situation with him can be easily managed. 

Thanks for posting your tip... it was very helpful and makes me feel much better :) when I retrieve him out of the pasture each afternoon.

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Hi Noellee, very glad to hear that Quiessence has had a positive effect on your QH!  While I realize that my experience is anecdotal rather than scientific, I try to pass along info that has helped us deal with his metabolic troubles. My Walkaloosa gelding now stays @ a healthy weight (he still puts a few pounds on when he's turned out in richer pastures.. nothing like the old days tho), and I dont' have to worry about his condition at all.  To me, that's success!

Best wishes for a complete healing of your QH, and that you'll be riding again soon.:)



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Thanks Tracey for the good wishes, both vet and I hope to have "Bo" back to light riding by spring :).

I have been riding either my very lovely TWH gelding or my 3yr QH gelding.  I was also going to ask if you turned your horse out on grass, but you just answered the question!  Thanks. 

  

 

 

 

 

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Hi Noellee, to be specific about grazing... my horse's weight is managed by keeping him on smaller less lush pastures in Spring and Summer with the other chubby tending horses that live there.. then he goes with the rest of the herd to a 40 acre Winter pasture after frost. Turning him loose 24/7 on this big field does put a little weight on him (plus he's ridden less in winter depending on the weather).. but nothing to cause even a small concern. This management has kept him very healthy for 3 years.. I'm very grateful that the horse manager where he boards is willing to work with me to keep him at an ideal weight.  Best wishes,



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stormzgaitzrgr8 wrote: to be specific about grazing... my horse's weight is managed by keeping him on smaller less lush pastures in Spring and Summer with the other chubby tending horses that live there.. then he goes with the rest of the herd to a 40 acre Winter pasture after frost. Turning him loose 24/7 on this big field does put a little weight on him (plus he's ridden less in winter depending on the weather).. but nothing to cause even a small concern. This management has kept him very healthy for 3 years..     

Thanks for the details... this is similar to what I have managed, just the "workout" factor got removed by the shoulder injury this late summer, and Bo's weight went up with the inactivity.  Before the injury, he stayed muscular instead of fat, I ride every weekend throughout mountain trails for 8hrs or so, plus ride here at my farm.  I have 90 acres, all the lush land is for cattle, but a 3 acre and 15 acre pasture is for horses.  It is rockier, hillside land, not nearly as lush, but grassy.  I pull Bo off both pastures spring and fall, let him gaze about 1/2 day during hot, dry summer spells in the smaller pasture, and turn him out in the larger one after winter frost.  I did this before I understood about the crest because after right I got him and turned out to pasture, he had a colic attack that we quickly got in control.  Plus I learned what an easy keeper he was!

The "crest" got noticably hard after his recent inactivity and weight gain these last 4 mos, so I got concerned about turning him out at all.  I think "inactivity" was the factor against us here.   We seem to be doing much better since I started him on the product you posted about.  He is also getting pure Lysine (amino acid) to help restore the muscles. 

About the cresty neck, just information that I learned... I had no clue about this before.  My farrier first pointed it out to me when it got hard and swollen during this inactivity period.  Then I asked my vet about it on his next visit, said it is a ligament that swells up with too much blood at the crest's center and the hardness that extends to each side of the crest is a warning sign.  The ligament runs just under the mane line, and would normally follow a very straight line with the mane and should be flat and softer.  The hard "crest" is not muscle, but a damaged ligament, and any hardness or swelling should be avoided.       

For Bo, the ligament has been changing shape, both in size and feel.  It seems much better, sometimes nearly normal, sometimes you can detect it a little bit.   

 

 

 

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