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 Posted: Sat Jul 9th, 2011 09:46 am
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karenlexsc wrote: Goran, your comments fit my situation with my mare too.  With an experienced rider, she racks easily, with me not so much.  This is my video of a lesson I took recently and the trainer is up.  She is 5'11" so my stirrups were too short for her.  Audio is hard to hear, but she told me Lacey swishes her butt too much and I need to move my feet back and hold her with them, encouraging her to the rail...amongst many other tips on riding the rack.  (wish I could remember them all t2)

Sorry about the dizzying feeling you get from my photographer...s2  its not easy to do.

Would love your comments on Lacey's rack.  Yours too Brenda and anyone else.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUDVPGDAKBw
Lovely horse that! Very smooth movements and she yields beautifully in the neck. Stirrups ARE too short, which makes the aids come mainly from the feet of the rider, instead of the seat and thighs, which is preferrable IMO. The horse is a bit flat and puts too much weight on the front, but with that yielding neck and with more push from the rider's seat it should be easy to fix.



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 Posted: Sun Jul 10th, 2011 03:03 am
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Thank you soo much everyone for the comments! I'm very sorry that I'm not a very good rider... I've not really had any lessons.. and no one at the 4h grounds know anything about the gaited horses.. AND this is my first horse! lol I will do better and maybe post another vid. I will definitely keep lighter contact on his mouth. :)



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No no! Don't apologize, you are doing really good!! And you are seeking the information to do better! Besides, I think you have found the best place to learn. Brenda's methods and equipment makes the work easier too. Everyone welcomes the new enthusiast, it's fun to watch the progress.:)

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 Posted: Sun Jul 10th, 2011 08:43 am
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You're not bad at all; just a bit inexperienced but being eager to learn is half the success and I'm sure you will go along way with your fine horse.:D

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 Posted: Sun Jul 10th, 2011 12:05 pm
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That's just what she said, Goran, and even gave me a lunge whip to tap her lightly on the butt for more impulsion from the rear.  I enjoyed that lesson and wish this gal was closer to me.  Lacey is a sweetheart of a mare!



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 Posted: Sun Jul 10th, 2011 01:30 pm
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Karen, Glad to hear we're in agreement; must be one hell of an instructor that lady!l1

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Well what does a rack feel like? If I let him go he goes into an extremely bouncy and uncomfortable ride. Tonight I got him to do a nice flat walk or running walk I think. All I know is that it was faster than a walk, 4 beats, and he had a head nod.



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With my guy when he's racking i'm almost not moving at all. Its like you're just sitting in the middle of all this animated movement but you stay still. That's what is so awesome about that gait. There may be alittle side to side movement. If i'm moving back and forth and kinda being pushed forward, he's foxtrotting.

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Ok because I want my horse to be able to rack... I think he may have it but I don't know if it is a rack.. or pace??   r1



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The rack will feel like you are moving comfortably in the seat, a little circular exercise movement at your waist line, but your butt and hips stay square in the seat.  If you have someone video your horse and you, the footfall of the rack will look very similar to how a the foot fall when a horse trots, the legs on the same side will form almost a "V" coming together, but the difference is only one foot will be on the ground in those split seconds before it lifts off and another places down... very animated appearing, but with the head shake/nod and raised tail, collection pushing from the hind first and balanced out to the neck, it looks cool and flashy, whatever the speed.

The pace feels jagging, especially as speed picks up. Your butt may in the saddle, but you will feel jagged to each side.  No waist line circles.  Again, on video, the foot fall will be "lateral", meaning each pair on the same side move forward together and touch the ground on that side, then the other side does it afterwards, sort of a "skate or ski" action, but with four legs wearing skates and always lining together on the same side.  It may look smooth at times if the rider is staying in the seat, but the whole head shake/nod and tail action is off, and once you do see a pace in action, you also realize it is jagging on the gaited breeds all along the spine to the legs.

At times a good racking horse may fall into a short-lived pace pattern, like if coming to a fast stop, and having to make a tight turn around... IMHO that is normal and the rack should resume once you are straightened up.  On the trails, I find my TWH racks consistently no matter what we path we are on.

Below are a couple of videos of Rain and I racking... he threw a shoe in the longer video, and we had to fall back into frame afterwards.  This was one of our first practice sessions after getting the IMUS 4beat western saddle.  We are using the ICB (bit).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_oQzm3X2UE

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjHLzQ0GkCU
 

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