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 Posted: Wed Feb 8th, 2012 10:40 pm
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With that darker mane, I would have guessed perlino on the one in the background.

Here's my cremello Paso.

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I would LOVE to get the dark gold with the white mane and tail, I'm hoping the combo of Puttin on The Ritz over Prides Generator is a factor, both throw a lot of flaxen, my mare has a lot of flaxen in her mane and tail.  :P

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IDK - I think it's important for the color of the points - on a paly - I think, it would control the color from deep gold to white. 

Here's a photo of my cremellos which shows the difference - they were both color tested identical - 2 creme and 1 agouti. 

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Wouldn't the agouti gene be important to getting buckskins and not matter for palomino? Just asking, I don't have the answer....

I just went to http://www.equinenow.com and selected TWH/Stallion/Cremello and there were 26 ads. Not all of those are at stud, some are for sale, but you ought to find something to breed to.

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Can you explain what distinctive means?  I will remember about the Agouti gene.



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If you want a distintive mane & tail, check that the cremello has the agouti gene to modify the black points.



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Thank you anyway, the more eyes out there the better!



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 Posted: Wed Feb 8th, 2012 05:59 pm
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nope that one was a perlino- I will keep an eye out.



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Oh shoot- I saw one somewhere Laharge- a couple of times- I think on fb- let me check



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Thanks Lynne, I probably will stick to Cremello, I want to breed Tennessee Walking Horses though, so the choices are even slimmer! If anyone can think of a nice TWH stallion let me know, I have a couple I'm mulling over. I have Prides Generator as a dam sire and Puttin on The Ritz on top, would like to widen the gene pool away from Generator.



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Stick with the cremello stud. Cremello x chestnut is a 100% guarantee on getting a palomino. It would be a shame to try anything else in the hope that you get a palomino if your heart is set on one. You could call the Mountain Pleasure registry and ask them to research their stallions for a cremello color, o one of the other Mountain breeds as long as you can register the foal.



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Yeah, I would like to know too, as I want Palomino not Buckskin. I also want the sire to be Tennessee Walker, so the Cremello choices are a bit narrower as well.



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Karal, that is a very informative website! I would wonder which color (cremello or perlino) would be the better choice for trying to get that palomino offspring? Maybe it wouldn't matter as both have two creme genes.... Interesting stuff.

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Lovely horse!
Here is a website explaining colors.
http://www.doubledilute.com/cremello.htm



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Yes and no- I wanted her- had to convince hubby that it was a good idea (hmmm) he didnt say no he said he wanted to "negotiate" which meant I could get her but I would have to give up something too (in this case frequent hamstring massages with a rolling massager lol) He said ok today so now she can come home.



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Oh, I thought you already got her. Congratulations! I just loved my Kentucky Mountain horse that I used to have. That Golden Retriever personality is awesome!

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Congrats, Lisa!!!! She's a doll.



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Karen- the Mountain Pleasure horse is the "founding" mountain breed that the others are an offshoot from (Rockys Kentucky Mountain) essentially they are the same horse. Goldie is Mountain Pleasure, Kentucky Mountain, and American Naturally Gaited registered, but breed wise (vs registry) she is a Mountain Pleasure- I have looked at Rocky's that were also Mountain Pleasure horses and often- a mare can be appendix registered (a rocky mare for example) as a mountain pleasure mare- although I think they are closing the books in March of this year. Update- I have been given the go ahead by my hubby- Yipee! going to pick her up either this weekend or next (its a bit of a drive- 4-4.5 hrs one way)



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Thank you Lakota! I so badly want a dark palomino, my mare is by He's Puttin on The Ritz out of a Pride's Generator daughter, she is in my avatar, she has a lot of flaxen running through her mane and her tail too, I heard Ritz sires a lot of silver gray in tails of chestnuts and she definately has that.



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Karen Smith really knows her stuff on the color issue. If I remember right, cremello's are based on the chestnut. Perlino's are based on the bay. As I understand, you have a 100% color producer with the perlino.

A friend of mine bred a really dark dark buckskin Paso mare to a cremello Walkin' Horse stud. The baby is so dark you wouldn't really call him a 'buckskin', but he has some tan on his nose so I guess technically he is a dark buckskin. I would have thought the cremello would have done more here. I think the perlino is more of a garunteed color producer.

Talk to Karen Smith, she is very nice and helpful. http://www.rebelpridefarm.com

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