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 Posted: Tue Oct 25th, 2011 04:58 pm
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My 7 month old colt is having a hard time rising from the laying down position.  He gets stuck in his stall almost daily. Not really cast but if his feet aren't perfect it takes several tries to get up. I took one mat out so half his stall is concrete. The adult horses don't have problems with the mats. But also outside he has difficulty at times. If his hip is under him he can't get up. So, sometimes when his feet are perfect he gets up normally and some times he just can't push up with the hind leg that is under him.
 He trips and falls when playing too sometimes. Too much I think. I know he is growing and getting used to his body but if he was a Mustang he would have been left behind and eaten by now. My question is : at his age and development should he be able to just get up with out a problem? I will be talking to the vet too as we are trying to schedule his gelding and I am afraid he would hurt his surgery  with all this struggle.
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 Posted: Tue Oct 25th, 2011 05:03 pm
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He shouldn't be having problems like that.  Even from a few moments after birth they should be able to rise and run.  Definitely a vet needs to examine him for some type of skeletel or muscle problems.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 25th, 2011 05:13 pm
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Sounds neurological, perhaps.  I second the opinion that he needs an examination.  EPM?  Possible.

Keep us posted.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 25th, 2011 05:51 pm
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We just had a local case of West Nile,  the horse either went down or was struggling to rise or both don't know the details .

 



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 Posted: Tue Oct 25th, 2011 09:35 pm
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Just found this:

Symptoms of the West Nile virus in horses
Signs that could indicate that a horse is infected with the West Nile virus include: stumbling, weakness in hind limbs, inability to stand, listlessness and head shaking. However, some infected horses show no signs at all. How should a horse with the West Nile virus be treated?
There is no reason to destroy or even isolate a horse that is infected with the West Nile virus. Most horses will fully recover from the illness. Treatment for the horse should be consistent with standard veterinary practice for animals infected with a viral disease.



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 Posted: Tue Oct 25th, 2011 10:55 pm
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He did get a shot for west nile early in the spring. But, I will ask the vet. He runs and plays and can balance for me to clean out his feet. He does not act sickly in anyway except with difficulty rising. I will keep you posted. Thanks for your responses.

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Sorry Drifter your baby is having this problem.  I don't know much to help you.  I would think he should be getting up easer than that.  Would it have anything to do with his foot problem when you first got him?  Will be waiting on what your vet tells you.



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I caught Jasper trying to get up this morning with my camera in movie mode. The vet is coming tomorrow. I will be at work but my husband will be here to assist. The vet can check the colt and watch the movie. Cross all our fingers it is not something terrible.
Can't he just grow up and be a trail horse with out any more drama?

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I hope the vet can find out what's wrong and fix him up for you! Good luck!



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 Posted: Fri Oct 28th, 2011 02:18 pm
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Hoping you get good news from your vet. I concur that your horse should not be having this problem. There must be an issue, but hopefully it is something that can be taken care of with no problems.

Does not sound like West Nile. Been there done that. This affects young horses and old horses very badly. The survival rate on them is not as good.

I had three to contract West Nile one year. Two of the horses were 7 yrs of age and one showed no symptoms, the other mild symptoms, which you could only see if you turned him in a small circle. But my horse near 20 had no control over hind quarters at all and kept falling down. He had to be euthanized. West Nile will appear much like a horse that is drunk. As they will stagger as well.

Sounds like yours could be neurological but i am thinking more on the lines of deprived oxygen at birth, but only mildy, so your horse is having problems really controlling his placement of legs. Or perhaps something in his joints or hip that is causing the problem. You did not state if this was something recent or has progressively gotten worse. But I had the feeling from reading your post. It is something this horse has always exhibited and you perhaps chalked it up to him being a foal and would outgrow.

Whatever I hope the news is good and you will post what you find out. Sure would like to know.

Please post what you find out.



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Edited, because i posted twice, sorry.

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If I remember right, he fell down and hit his head and busted his lip not too long ago.  Did his problem start after that?  Remember to tell your vet about his mishap.  Sure hope everything is okay.  He deserves a change to grow up normal.



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The colt has had some minor leg problems from the get go. When I got him his fetlocks were very lax. Good nutrition straightened this out. Then he got some swelling in his joints due to growing too fast. We cut back his grain and things were corrected. He had normal co- ordination all of this time. The neurological signs are new . He started stumbling and falling from time to time but it could be explained by it being slippery, muddy ect and him being inexperienced. But then, he started having problems rising. And it was getting worse. Every morning he would be down and it was a struggle to get up to eat.
 The vet did a neurological test and Jasper did well. No stumbling, good balance, no dragging his toes or facial sagging , good backing and side stepping ect. So the vet took some  blood to rule out EPM. He does not think it is a virus. But wants to rule them out. He is afraid it could be cervical stenosis (wobblers) Jasper was given a shot of inflammatory medication and was standing up waiting for breakfast this morning. I was overjoyed. However, Wobblers can be a very dire diagnosis. In some way it makes sense due to his bone growth problems over his short life. I will keep all posted with his blood test results. If you have had positive results with this kind of problem in foals I will be happy to hear of it. If you have had very bad results no need to share. I am worried enough and don't need more tears.
 Jasper eats 4-6 pounds a day of growth formula
 4+ flakes of mixed grass hay
 He is 650 pounds
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I was wondering if it could be wobblers :(

poor boy!  will be sending good vibes your way for him!



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 Posted: Fri Oct 28th, 2011 11:05 pm
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I wasn't expecting this so fast. The vet got the results. He is positive for Epm. He doubts it is a false positive due to his young age. Medication is expensive and not guaranteed to work but we will be treating it.
 Good vibes, prayers,crossed fingers are all appreciated.
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Ohhh.......I hope the treatment works.  I am sending good thoughts your way.  I don't know much about EPM, how long could the treatment take before you see progress? 

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So sorry to hear of your your colt having this problem.  :(

I have no experience with EPM, so can't advise, but sure am hoping he responds favorably to treatment. Best of luck with him. Keep us posted.

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I have a friend that used to have a little lean black racking horse. I found out that at some time in his past he had EPM. I would have never guessed it, he was full of energy with a go forword attitude and a high stepping even rack. What a fun guy he was!

When he went up for sale I wasn't able to buy him, but I would have got him in a hot second. I don't see any reason why your baby can't be a great horse when he gets over this. I hope for the best for you1l.

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Thanks so very much for saying that. The vet is also hopeful because we caught it so soon.

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do you have alot of opossums in your area?  usually EPM is contracted from their feces!:(

i had a friend who's horse tested positive for it and was treated for 6months -- he was one of the lucky ones who got through it!:cool:

hope your lil guy responds well to treatment and yes, those meds are freaking expensive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! gezzzzzzzzzz louise!s5



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