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| Another Lump!! :-( | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 18th, 2011 03:17 pm |
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fireandice G.O.G Community Member 
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Started another thread to the recent subject of galling in hopes of getting fresh responses. OK, so I bought the Angora roping girth. I rode in it yesterday for a lousy hour and a half, it was very loose. I was going to ride again this morning and low and behold, he STILL got a damn lump under the girth hb1. Now I can't ride for a couple/3 more days. I'm so frustrated. NOELLE: Since I am going to EF in a couple of months, I was hoping to be able to wait until then so I can see exactly what will work on him. He had never before had any problems what-so-ever with galls until this Spring. I looked at my National Bridle Shop catalog while waiting for the lady who I was riding with yesterday to arrive at the trail head and I saw the IMUS h.a.h. cinch. I'm thinking my thinking may be wrong regarding the wider, the better...I don't know. That cinch looks awful thin behind the elbows but the cut-out area makes a lot of sense. It doesn't look soft enough for Strokers' very thin, fine skin. We'll see. In all my years of riding and showing, I have NEVER had a horse get galled so this is very frustrating for me, especially since he just all of a sudden developed this problem. Lots can be done to alleviate it I'm sure, I just have to do some more work. T.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 18th, 2011 03:21 pm |
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GypsySusan G.O.G Community Member 
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Instead of changing cinches, have you tried a fleece cover to help with his sensitive skin?
____________________ Susan http://www.gypsytrotters.com Phil 4:11-13, 19 Missouri Fox Trotters: To Ride One... Is to Own One. |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 18th, 2011 03:25 pm |
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fireandice G.O.G Community Member
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Susan: As much as I hated to do it, I ran to Horse Town and looked for a fleece cover but they didn't have any believe it or not so I bought the Angora because it is so soft - it's almost silky and feels very very nice. Of all the things to not have...geez. But this is something I believe may help him. I will have to order one from a catalog probably but yes, I have thought about them too and will try it. T.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 18th, 2011 03:55 pm |
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NOELLEE G.O.G Community Member 
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Hey Tina, maybe post a recent pic of Stroker so we can see his current shape and where the lump is developing. Girths have always been a PIA for me, and I have finally settled on two, even though my tack room has quite a few undesirables hanging. It will be great for you to be able to test the IMUS saddle at EF tu1. Would be nice if NBS would have some new ones that could be brought on the spot after the ride is over in case you don't want to leave without one!
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19th, 2011 03:04 pm |
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sdlepal Ranch Hand 
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We just came back from riding three days in a row. I don't know who is more sore, me or the horses. But my SSH who is white under the belly where the cinch goes is sensitive too. I can't remember if I replied on your other post or not. But I have three of the breathe easy girths. When I get a new one, they seem to break him out with scab like sores. After a few times he is okay again. I am wondering if at times they are just sensitive to the neoprene and sweat combined. I wash my girths off and switch out each day. Yesterday, our third day my horse had little lumps at the girth. I have found that loosening the girth up on breaks help with this problem. I have tried the mohair girth when I first had this problem and it didn't help much and it gets muddy fast. At least with the breath easy girth, you don't have to tighten it up as tight. I just deal with it best I can, it doesn't seem to bother him as much as me.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19th, 2011 03:26 pm |
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fireandice G.O.G Community Member
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Well, my phone still isn't in so no pictures. It's basically gone now but there is still very slight evidence of a lump there. If I ride him today or tomorrow it will come back for sure. Pam: It does bother him but just barely, which is enough for me to find a solution. It's not safe for me to keep riding with such a loosely tightened cinch - I mean, it's loose! I've got to find something better. I'm going to try a h.a.h. cinch but honestly, I've tried so many different ones. Like NOELLE, I've got a plethora of used-once-or-twice cinches hanging in the tack room. Hell, I could probably start my own little tack shop. His hair is also white along the cinch area with pink, onion-thin skin there and it wrinkles at the drop of a hat. A fleece covering may do the trick. I really like the Angora cinch, it's SO soft. Oh well, another 80 bucks flushed down the toilet f1 T.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19th, 2011 05:25 pm |
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JessiFK G.O.G Community Member 
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I would try the sheepskin/fleece girth cover and see if that helps. Also, I always stretch the horses legs(pick one up and gently stretch it forward) after doing up the girth/cinch, it helps flatten out any hair/skin under it so it can't pinch.
____________________ Horses make me SMILE and I make them SMILE(or at least have trained Karma to on cue! HA HA) <3 |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19th, 2011 08:19 pm |
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TN Trailrider G.O.G Community Member 
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Tina, I just remembered something. SOmetimes my horses would get a girth gall and I used a salve called Girth Gall Salve (I think that was the name). It would heal the gall up quickly, but I've also read that if you rub a little on the area that is always getting a gall BEFORE you girth up, then it provides a lubrication. Might be worth a try as it's cheaper than another girth
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20th, 2011 02:06 am |
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Karal G.O.G Community Member 
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loose girth is not necessarily better. The girth could be rubbing back and for giving him a sore. I would go with a girth cover too. Good luck.
____________________ live - laugh - love |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20th, 2011 05:15 pm |
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fireandice G.O.G Community Member
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JessiFK wrote: I always stretch the horses legs(pick one up and gently stretch it forward) after doing up the girth/cinch, it helps flatten out any hair/skin under it so it can't pinch. This makes it worse for him because then all the skin is bunched up and 'wavy' in front of the girth. He does much better when I do not do this but thank you much for the suggestion, I have heard this works great for some horses. TN: I have heard of that stuff and I believe the primary ingredient is a Vaseline base so I will slather him tomorrow morning with it to see what happens. Karal: I have heard this too but it seems I just can't get it right whether it's correct, medium or loose fitting. On a slightly positive note, I rode him yesterday for about 45 minutes and NO LUMP. I'm not getting too excited but what I did was to move the cinch back to the 2nd ring and this morning while he was getting shod, I was fluffing up the saddle pad and saw something. There was a missing insert on the off side! So I had two inserts on the near side, and one on the off side. How in the hell I let that happen and missed it is beyond me - stupid mistake on my part. I will be riding again tomorrow to the river. It is only about a 45 minute ride so it is short, I will see if that extra insert helps even more. Either way, I will for sure be getting something softer and 'fluffier' like a sheepskin cover or girth. Thanks y'all for all your input. I will keep you updated. T.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 20th, 2011 09:24 pm |
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quaillady G.O.G Community Member 
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OOOH! Horse Town! It's a required stop whenever I get north of Macon! Maybe a couple of times a year. I found a wonderfully soft Alpaca fiber girth at a local store recently, it felt like something you would want to sleep with! It wasn't an unreasonable price either, I didn't buy it because I use Australian tack. I don't know if the Alpaca would be any different than the Angora though. I hope you can find a solution to Stroker's galling problem and make him comfortable.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 24th, 2011 04:15 pm |
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fireandice G.O.G Community Member
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Well, rode Sunday and no lumps. I still was riding with a slightly looser than safe girth, but tighter than the last time and no problems at all. I remember when I was a kid, I would mount in the saddle with no girth so I tried it again. It hurt my knee but I can still do it  ...barely b1.Riding again tomorrow at Charlie Elliot Wildlife Center: http://www.bchsg.org/TrailMaps/CharlieElliotDirections.pdf Stroker will be tutoring two green trail horses. He is in high demand around here. Most folks do not have the time or patience to sit around and patiently wait for a green horse to decide it is OK to cross the creek, the bridge and various other obstacles. They work all week and when the weekends come they just want to ride without any worries. We can ride 5 minutes or 5 hours. Hmm...perhaps I should start charging a nominal fee  ...J/K! He is like a Kindergarten teacher. He will walk across, back across several times and looks back like "It's OK, see...watch"...and does it again. He's so adorable.My SmartPhone still isn't in, I sure would love to get some photos of our outings. Perhaps soon, it's on backorder. T.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 29th, 2011 12:24 am |
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Lakota G.O.G Community Member 
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Tina, I understand you aren't riding a 4beat saddle, but how is your saddle rigged? If you're using a western saddle with rigging rings at the rear you can rig your saddle Imus style which will allow for a more rearward girth position as well as more stability for your saddle. Traditional front only western style rigging will allow the back of the saddle to 'pop' up some with every gaited stride causing the front of the bars to pinch the withers. It also puts the girth too far forward (usually causing galls on the horse that gaits a lot). If you have a saddle shop/harness shop in the area, have them cut you a couple of long latigo tie straps and put them on the rear rigging rings and tie up like the 4Beat does. This may be all it takes for that new Angora girth to work for you. I did this with an old leather B** H*** round skirt western saddle and it made it very usable till I got my 4Beat.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 8th, 2011 01:07 am |
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softride G.O.G Community Member 
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I haven't had a horse to gall in a long time. When we went on the Osceola Trail ride, Louise's mule got a collar gall. We put diaper rash cream on it. It lubricated the spot and has medication in it to help heal what was already sore and opened. (We used that years ago on our dinasours.) I bought a round sheepskin lined leather girth ring covers?(I don't know what to call them). I had a creamola that galled pretty easy that seemd to do the trick for her. you might have to try a center rigging on your horse to get the cinch father back. Sort of like a "V" from the front girth to the back girt ring. I've seen this used on a few horses mostly mules since they have no whithers and the saddle slides forward. Maybe a crupper will help keep the saddle back but you do need to train for this and you cannot have it adjusted to tight or to loose. Always a fine balance. Good luck
____________________ Horses are not a job-They are a way of life! |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 8th, 2011 01:14 pm |
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SPOTD RIDR G.O.G Community Member 
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Since we got soaking wet on our ride this weekend and my mohair girth was wet I used my 6yr old neoprene cinch that is wore out/streched cause it was all I had, Mira was so galled when we got in after 5hrs it was pitiful. Neoprene just does not work for us, Mohair hardly gives us problems, but now the leather breast collars will gall there chests too riding up and down the Mtn trails, so I put some sheepskin on the collar center piece and it does not gall now, so for the mountains I bought a all wool/felt lined collar it is the only one that does not cause problems. So maybe the sheepskin covers will help and of course the white furr with pink skin in the girth surely don't help the situation.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 12th, 2011 10:55 am |
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summertime G.O.G Community Member
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Fleece has been my horses saving grace
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13th, 2011 01:54 am |
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crs trail rider Ranch Hand 
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Jenny galls if I look at her wrong. LOL I have a barn full of girths- all galled her- so I went to a mohair- and it does better but she will still gall occaisionally- usually if the girth loosened up while riding- BUT I use some stuff I got from distance depot (endurance rider site) and I use it in the area she galls and I have 100 percent success in keeping galls away if I use it (a endurance friend also said I could use baby oil) This stuff (and I cant remember what it is- its in the trailer) looks like deodorant- people use it too to help with chafing. I also stretch out her front legs to make sure I dont have any skin caught. But neoprene, fleece, and to a lesser extent felt- galls every time. And a loose girth is worse than a snug girth- it can wiggle and pinch and slide into places it shouldnt be. Last edited on Tue Sep 13th, 2011 01:57 am by crs trail rider ____________________ Its rarely the horses fault- Its usually a failure of the rider to communicate their requests in a manner that the horse can understand. Lisa |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13th, 2011 03:17 am |
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Lakota G.O.G Community Member
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I think that the Distance Depot will make you a sheepskin fleece girth cover if you want one. I don't see how any horse could get a gall with Merino wool on the girth.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13th, 2011 02:15 pm |
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SPOTD RIDR G.O.G Community Member
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crs trail rider wrote: And a loose girth is worse than a snug girth- it can wiggle and pinch and slide into places it shouldnt be. That is also what I have concluded too, Mira's neoprene was all stretched and was up in her armpit some and was somewhat loose and she was the worst galled I have ever seen her, I think that sliding and swinging back and forth chaps more than staying in place. I thru that cinch in the garbage when we got home.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 4th, 2011 04:10 pm |
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softride G.O.G Community Member
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Was looking on another site and I came across this. I thought that it might help. "Girth itch is also caused by fungus, but it appears mainly at the girth area where there is friction and abrasion from a cinch. Unless halted, it can lead to ever-widening raw spots, causing the horse to eventually become so sore a saddle can't be used. The fungus can be spread from horse to horse via a contaminated cinch or brushes. To avoid spreading the infection, change cinches between horses (if you use the same saddle) or wash the cinch in diluted bleach or another fungicide. Some horses seem more susceptible to fungal infections than others. Even if you clear up girth itch, it is likely to return during the next riding season unless you make sure the cinch fits perfectly and does not rub the horse (no friction sores through which fungi can enter the skin) and that all tack and grooming equipment is clean and free of fungal spores. To clear up an existing case of girth itch, treat it as soon as it appears with a topical fungicide product prescribed by your vet."
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