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| Posted: Mon May 18th, 2009 11:00 pm |
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SilverDollarMagic G.O.G Community Member 
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Which bloodlines have you found to have the most laid back personalities and which seem to be "hotter" than others? For example, my TWH mare's sire is Generator's Silver Dollar and her dam is Beaming on Me. If you wanna' see her whole pedigree go to allbreedpedigree.com and type in Silver Dollar Magic. I can't post the direct link here for some reason. Thanks in advance!  Last edited on Mon May 18th, 2009 11:06 pm by SilverDollarMagic ____________________ God is so big He can cover the world with His love, yet so small He can curl up inside your heart |
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| Posted: Mon May 18th, 2009 11:36 pm |
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wlknhrslvr G.O.G Community Member 
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I have a Generator granddaughter and I've know a few others. They were all mares and had similar dispositions. First, she is one of the best horses I've ever had. She is short and is more the quarter horse type. But she can be very standoffish. She does not follow us around and could take or leave attention. Once the halter is on she always is easy to handle. Never ever had a problem with her acting up. When she was younger she liked to move out and gaits like a dream. She's more poky now and I can dog walk her easier than when she was in her teens. She senses the rider and is great with kids. Her sire I heard was a real handful. Her mother was out of my old mare that had really old lines. You can look her up Lucky Day's Satin. I was always told Merry Boy was better on the bottom for disposition. The WGC lines produce horses that tend to pace so they can add the pads to square them out. Personally I stay away from WGC lines after the 80's. I always look at the horse first to know what their personality is like. Pedigree never concerns me if the horse is a match for me.
____________________ Stacey "Riding a horse is not a gentle hobby, to be picked up and laid down like a game of solitaire. It is a grand passion. It seizes a person whole and, once it has done so, he will have to accept that his life will be radically changed." -- |
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| Posted: Mon May 18th, 2009 11:46 pm |
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SilverDollarMagic G.O.G Community Member
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Thanks for your reply Your mare sounds a lot like Hope in that she can be somewhat standoffish but once the halter in on her she's all business. She doesn't follow me around but won't walk off from me until I tell her she can go. She has her moments undersaddle but is not dangerous by any means and will let anybody ride her. She's very forgiving as well. I'm new to gatied horses and she has put up with me learning & experimenting with her gaits lol! Who was your mare's sire & grandsire? I'm sorry but for the life of me I can't remember what "WGC" stands for b1
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| Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 12:11 am |
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SunnysMum G.O.G Community Member 
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I have an Grand Daughter to Grandiose ,and she's got the most perfect personality ever, she has her moments like any other horse/pony. But I couldn't at this point ask for a more perfect pony, her Sire Park's King George is out of Grandiose (TWH) and Craig's Suise Que (Welsh) and then Sunny's Mare is Summer Sunshine (AWP). She's registered American Walking Pony. But I do know Grandiose goes back to foundation stock within two or three generations. PKG had the exsact same personality my Sunny does and I was told he got that from his Sire Grandiose. I think if I ever get an TWH i'm going to find one if possible out of him.
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| Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 01:38 am |
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Camanae GOG V.I.P 
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I loved the legendary Geronimo, but also loved Seattle Chief out of Wa. Maybe I'm in love! It's with horses...what were you thinking? I''m a foxtrotter gal myself, but enjoy all horses and have different kinds. If you have'm, ride'm.
____________________ Coyote~n~Camanae Brent and Patti Owens * Kanab, Utah * Borrowed Land & Livestock Company Horses~cows~dogs~dirt wooooo! what a great life! |
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| Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 03:25 am |
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SilverDollarMagic G.O.G Community Member
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Thanks for the replies I've "heard" that Pusher horses are quite a handful. Is this true? I've heard the same thing about Generator lines as well but moreso in Pusher lines.
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| Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 03:37 am |
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SPOTD RIDR G.O.G Community Member 
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SilverDollarMagic wrote: I've "heard" that Pusher horses are quite a handful. Is this true? I've heard the same thing about Generator lines as well but moreso in Pusher lines. That is what a lot of people told me, not to buy a Pusher horse for a trail horse, that they were hot, and nasty tempered, but made great show horses. But I bought one anyway, I could not get past his sweet eyes and beautiful lit up coat, and I will have to say I just love him ! very sweet, loves attention and laid back. But I have seen the show Pushers climbing the walls at the barns, but I think it is the training, because my boy is very reactive if you get after him, he tries really hard to do what you want, pronto. I love the Spotted Alen lines & Pusher for there lit up color. I like the look of a Ebony Masterpiece bred horse too. Oh and WGC is World Grand Champion.  Does this Pusher horse look like a handful ? maybe a lapful, LOL Last edited on Tue May 19th, 2009 03:38 am by SPOTD RIDR ____________________ JoAngela "Jo" |
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| Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 01:23 pm |
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ChampagneTobe G.O.G Community Member 
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I love the Go Boy line (specifically Go Boy's Gold Insignia) and the Royal Ivory line. The colt I just bought is from the Blue Gold line which traces back to Roy Roger's Trigger, Jr. and is said to have consistent temperaments as well. I also have heard about the Pusher lines in a negative way. Sheilazav has a Pusher horse and he was VERY reactive at first. We who know her and Prowler understand how trusting and calm he is now, but I believe that is because of the abundant amount of time and trust she has cultivated with him. CT
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| Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 03:27 pm |
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Brenda Im Pasture Boss 
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I'm fond of GLL's Carbon Copy lines, as well as Merry Boy's Spirit F-88. I've crossed these lines with great success. I appreciate horses with Merry Boy blood, as they tend to be very loose and naturally gaited, with laid back temperaments. The TWH stallion that I bred for many years had tons of the old blood right up close on his papers: GLL's Carbon Copy, Wilson's Allen, Merry Legs (Merry Boy's dam - but up close enough to be listed), Midnight Sun, etc., etc. It was like a 'Whose Who' of the TWH world - and he more than lives up to it. The only stud I know who had 22 fillies to 3 colts! I've not heard good things about Pusher lines, or Ebony Masterpiece, and of course the most recent WGC lines are primarily pacing blood. A dream trip of mine would be to go to Brown Shop Road Farm, in TN, and pick the brains of Leon Oliver - a great friend of mine, Jim Culbertson, who really knew his stuff told me that Leon knows more about the old time walking horse than any other man living. Jim passed on awhile back, and I've always wanted to follow up on his suggestion. I've not had the chance to do so, but hope to one day, as Leon is getting up in years. PB  PS: I just discovered that Leon Oliver's farm is only a few miles from Lewisburg, where I'll be stopping on my way to the Memphis TN clinic this weekend. Put in a call and left a message asking if I can stop by and pick his brains. Fun! (Jim, are you up there grinning?) Last edited on Tue May 19th, 2009 04:43 pm by Brenda Im ____________________ Always forgive your enemies. It's good for you - and really messes with their heads! |
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| Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 03:41 pm |
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SilverDollarMagic G.O.G Community Member
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No SPOTD RIDR, your horse does not look like a handful lol !I'm glad your boy and Prowler have turned out to be such lovely boys Brenda, if you get a chance will you look at Hope's pedigree for me and let me know what you see there? I've had her since November of '08 and am trying to learn all I can about the TWH breed and certain bloodlines to see if she fits the "profile" so to speak. Of course anybody is welcomed to give me some input. It would be greatly appreciated I hope you get a chance to make the trip to TN to talk to Mr. Oliver. I would love to meet someone like him around here but alas, there are primarily QH, Paint & Appy people here so I have to do most of my research online *sigh* Last edited on Tue May 19th, 2009 03:44 pm by SilverDollarMagic ____________________ God is so big He can cover the world with His love, yet so small He can curl up inside your heart |
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| Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 10:34 pm |
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SPOTD RIDR G.O.G Community Member
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I have not heard good things about Pushers or heard of Ebony temperments either, but considering I have 2 Pusher, and 3 with Ebony , and they are all great horses, but all different , and they all have nice temperments too, I think they all have to be looked at on a individual basis. I said I like the look of Pusher and Ebony, but do be careful with the temperments, because I have really seen alot more Pusher horses at show barns that I would not go near more than any other line. My mare has alot of Merry Go Boy and Last Chance lines, I have not really heard alot about the temperments of those lines just that they tend to be a very natural gaited horse, but she is the hottest of my 3. Oh and of course she is Spotted Alen bred to. Last edited on Wed May 20th, 2009 03:15 pm by SPOTD RIDR ____________________ JoAngela "Jo" |
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| Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 12:23 am |
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SilverDollarMagic G.O.G Community Member
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SPOTD RIDR wrote: I have not heard good things about Pushers or Ebony temperments either, but considering I have 2 Pusher, and 3 with Ebony , and they are all great horses, but all different , and they all have nice temperments too, I think they all have to be looked at on a individual basis. Interesting! I would love to see pics of all your "babies" Hope has Merry Maker and Wilson's Allen on her papers but they're far back. She also has a good bit of Midnight Sun, Spirit of Midnight & Pride of Midnight with Pride's Generator being her Grandsire. I do see a lot of Wilson's Allen, Roan Allen and Merry Maker as well as Merry Boy on her sire's & dam's sides but don't see any Pusher or Ebony anywhere on either side. It appears there is quite a bit of line breeding on both sides. What can you tell me about Hope's lines? Sorry for all the questions. I'm still learning b1 Her registered name is Silver Dollar Magic. Last edited on Wed May 20th, 2009 12:28 am by SilverDollarMagic ____________________ God is so big He can cover the world with His love, yet so small He can curl up inside your heart |
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| Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 01:34 pm |
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Nelliebly G.O.G Community Member 
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Brenda Im wrote: I'm fond of GLL's Carbon Copy lines, as well as Merry Boy's Spirit F-88. I've crossed these lines with great success. I appreciate horses with Merry Boy blood, as they tend to be very loose and naturally gaited, with laid back temperaments. The TWH stallion that I bred for many years had tons of the old blood right up close on his papers: GLL's Carbon Copy, Wilson's Allen, Merry Legs (Merry Boy's dam - but up close enough to be listed), Midnight Sun, etc., etc. It was like a 'Whose Who' of the TWH world - and he more than lives up to it. The only stud I know who had 22 fillies to 3 colts! Hi Brenda, Leon is not the only one; Ray Corum is still alive (owner of Merry Boy F88). Ray's daughter is now running the farm and is just about as knowledgeable. My 2-year old colt is a grandson of Merry Boy F88 and is as good and sweet as they come 
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| Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 01:56 pm |
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Nelliebly G.O.G Community Member
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I think in general the breed isn't what I'd call "hot". However, breeders will tell you that a TWH with a lot of "Pride" blood tend to be hot. Never heard anything bad about Ebony lines - I have an Ebony mare and her only bad point is that she is not big on socializing with other horses - but she loves people attention. Pusher lines: Just because a horse has Pusher on its pedigree does not mean it will pace - take the whole pedigree into account. The ones I've seen were not hot at all, good gaiters and most were just BIG with BIG heads They are also usually pretty flashy.
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| Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 02:56 pm |
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Nelliebly G.O.G Community Member
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Expounding, thinking aloud, on the "Pride" lines... I've always wondered if the Pride horses are really hot, or if it's just one of those things that "just became" over time. Some quotes by Bill Harlin from the book "Echo of Hoofbeats": Pride of Midnight, according to Mr. Harlin, owner/breeder, was one with a "funny personality - he had one foot that was about half way deformed, he was pop-eyed, stood up in the cross-ties, and was a show horse from day one." "Pride was a horse with a lot of freedom up front. At that time you didn't have the big foot as we do now and it took a lot to get a horse's foot up. But Pride could do it with a lot of ease and of course he had this natural kind of snort and showhorse ways. The hit on this horse was, a lot of trainers put him down hard. They said you can't fix [sore] his colts - they won't take it. Such trainers were missing the message that my Dad and Harlin Hayes were trying to convey, which was: "We've got a horse that you don't need to fix that way, he does it naturally."" Just musing if this over the years just translated into "Pride horses are too hot", while in reality you just can't breed enough pace into them to make them perform good enough as BL horses.
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| Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 03:12 pm |
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SPOTD RIDR G.O.G Community Member
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Nelliebly wrote: Pusher lines: Just because a horse has Pusher on its pedigree does not mean it will pace - take the whole pedigree into account. The ones I've seen were not hot at all, good gaiters and most were just BIG with BIG heads My answer to SDM was mainly on looks and conformation, because I only have 3 horses and have not been around lots of other TWH, just what friends that work at show barns of my farrier tell me. I love the flashy big, horse with big heads and long ears and the pusher & ebony seem to all have that build. Cruz tends to trot at liberty and Coal will pace at liberty and they both have pusher as a g.grandsire. The 3 lines I have heard most of these people tell me to stay away from was Pusher, Pride and Threat, but Cruz is pusher/pride/ebony, so I guess he should be some sort of fire breathing dragon if you just went by hearsay or other peoples experiences.l1
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| Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 04:54 pm |
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Nelliebly G.O.G Community Member
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SilverDollarMagic wrote: Which bloodlines have you found to have the most laid back personalities and which seem to be "hotter" than others? One of the granddam's pedigree is missing on that site, but I looked it up on Ipeds. There's a lot of really nice horses on SDM's pedigree, there's also quite a bit of Pride breeding. So tell me, do you think SDM is "hot"?
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| Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 05:39 pm |
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A Star in my Pocket G.O.G Community Member 
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I wish I knew what Star was. I'd get 10 more just like her.
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| Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 11:26 pm |
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SilverDollarMagic G.O.G Community Member
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Nelliebly wrote: SilverDollarMagic wrote:Which bloodlines have you found to have the most laid back personalities and which seem to be "hotter" than others? Thank you for that info! Can I get access to Ipeds or do you have to be a member? Do I think my mare is "hot?" Well, when I first got her I would say yes, very hot, but over the past 6 months she has mellowed out beautifully. One thing I did was take her off grain and put her on a ration balancer so that helped tremendously. She has the most beautiful, natural gaits I've ever seen on a barefoot TWH. She was shown in padded classes in her 2 & 3 year old years, then went on to be "just a trail horse." She's traffic safe and rides like a dream BUT she's extremely buddy sour. She has a funny personality when she's in the mood, lol! But is a witch when she's in heat. She can be very loving at times but at other times she can be quite standoffish. She learns very fast and has great ground manners. She's not dangerous or aggressive by any means but when she hasn't been ridden for awhile she tends to be bratty undersaddle until you show her you mean business. I honestly don't think she would hurt anyone intentionally. She hasn't once tried to kick or bite me and has not once pinned her ears at me. I would say all in all she's a good horse that I would trust with anybody. We just need to get her comfortable riding away from her buddies b1
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| Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 11:33 pm |
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SilverDollarMagic G.O.G Community Member
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New headshots of Hope (Silver Dollar Magic) What do you think? You can't see it well in the pics, but she has a white blaze down her face   
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