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 Posted: Fri Jan 14th, 2011 02:40 am
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Yes, it is still ice on the roads, really bad... just spoke with Teddy's seller this evening and vet will come out on Monday since it is not an ER situation.  Oh well, more time to finish up that last stall!

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He is beautiful!  What an exciting adventure.  I can't wait to see and hear more.

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What an exciting time for you!!! He looks great but in my eye (maybe just be my eyes cuz I seem to see it in several horses lately) he is butt high in his growin'.(?)

He looks tightly coupled so maybe you won't have to deal with pacing at all. Actually, I'm betting he will be on the trotty side of the spectrum. You let me know, OK? I really enjoy 'guessing' the way they might go before I see it. Hope you'll be able to put up a video. He will be a good one to watch.

If you can't get a stall ready in time for his arrival, just send him on down the road to me. to1 He'll look great in my barn, too.



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whattarack wrote: He looks great but in my eye (maybe just be my eyes cuz I seem to see it in several horses lately) he is butt high in his growin'.(?)

He looks tightly coupled so maybe you won't have to deal with pacing at all. Actually, I'm betting he will be on the trotty side of the spectrum. You let me know, OK? I really enjoy 'guessing' the way they might go before I see it. Hope you'll be able to put up a video. He will be a good one to watch.

If you can't get a stall ready in time for his arrival, just send him on down the road to me. to1 He'll look great in my barn, too.


Whattarack, I will trailer both Rain and Teddy over to your place and let you coach sister and me to our best gaits :).

I think the one picture of Teddy without the saddle on, he is standing on a slight slope.  I asked about the high rump, and was told it was the angle of shot and ground level.  I am told... all these tolds, I know!  that he had a beautiful headset, arches his neck when gaiting, tucks his chin, raises his tail, headshakes and is just a Wow to watch.  

Here is another shot, with his head facing foward.   

 

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Thank you Phargirl... it will be Monday morning before the coggins blood test is drawn (sigh), due to the GA snow in.   So maybe following weekend if the tests come back quickly, or first of following week, he will finally arrive. 

Right now, the snow in the horse field is just melting... and freezing into ice sheets in  places.  So I am glad I don't have to turn him out with the geldings right now.  River will probably try to pester him silly at first. 

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He is gorgeous, a real eye catcher. How tall is this horse, he looks really tall in this picture. I know you are excited and cannot wait to see him. He looks like he will be all they say. Very well put together.



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Mana: 
Thanks, tall enough! But I think he gives the appearance of being even taller, must be that high head carriage, lol.
Love him.



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Can't wait to see more.  He is so pretty and I like the way he stands.  I don't know much but I thought he had  a high rump too.  But just looking at the picture  he looks so graceful!



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I think it is the head carriage.  I am told he moves out holding a nice arch into his headset.  Here is are a couple of pics of his sire's neck/head set. 

I spoke to some boarders at the farm, and they has nothing but impression remarks on him.  I am so excited that he is coming. 

 

 

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And another pic of sire's head set.

Of course, that brings up an interesting question... sire is a padded WGC show horse, and Lakota raised the interesting point these show horses are bred to be more pracey so they square up better under weights, pads and so forth.  Dam is not a show horse, just a gaited/racker mare.  So how much weight in developing the offspring carrys from either side?  It is always a gamble?

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I am also told he is very well-trained, moves along with handling showing the least resistence.  I am discovering that Rain is also like this as I am learning better techniques to handling a TWH. 

Rain, my other TWH at 16hhs, moves very graceful, almost sweeping into a skate as he walks off lead.  At first, he sweep would outpace my own legs when I led him, and sometimes we would bump.  But I learned to put on a rope halter on instead with the strategic knots, and no lead, and just barely touch the loop when the lead would clip with a finger or two.  And barely ask him to move with me, stop, turn, back up... he does it much better than if I put on a regular nylon halter.  So beautiful now in his responses and we rarely bump even going through the stall door together. 

He came in from the pasture yesterday without his halter... the three geldings are allowed into the barn one by one and go to their own stalls, doors are open and they go to their own, then I shut that door and let the next one in.  Then feed them.  I usually don't keep halters on the horses while in the pasture, but when I am getting them socialized and trained to my routine, it helps if I need to get ahold of one. 

Afterwards, I let them out one by one while I fill up water bowls, remove their ground bowls, add hay, muck a little, and all that.  The horses like nosing around the barn one by one.  I went to get Rain to put him back in and that is when I noticed the halter was gone.  So I got a lead rope instead, looped it and he dropped his nose into it... then with the barest control, let me lead him into his stall, a good distance as he was out in the barn paddock.  No resistence with just that little nose make-shift band from the lead rope. 

I am hoping when the seller of Teddy says he is trained to be resistent free that this is what he is referring to, in all regards of handling.  Rain is a big TWH, but his moves are so graceful it is like moving with air. 

 

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I think he is just beautiful, but I love a black horse.

My husbands horse is 16.2h and out of WGC Motown Magic and out of a mare by the WGC Pushover by WGC the Pusher and he is pacey and has alot of overstride, so he tends to pull his front shoes off quite often which is a royal pain in the butt.

He will pace in the field a good bit, but when Jerry rides him and gets him in gear he is smooth and gliding, it did take him a good while to get him set in his gait and he has always went with a high headset more like a ASB, but that is just his natural way of going.

My mare who has the WGC in the 3rd & 4th generations but not directly out of WGC and top side out of spotted lines & bottom Masterpiece is and was my most natural gaited horse, never see her pace, but she is a racker, Cruz who is 2 generation WGC Pusher, WGC Pride and WGC Masterpiece bred, took more to get him gaiting consistent and only paces once in a while in the field mostly trots.

So in my experience I think less WGC up close may be easier training for a trail horse, but I sure would not turn one down with a great WGC pedigree if I liked the horse, I'd get it and hope for the best !  



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He reminds me of our Ramsey who we just bought in October.  He is black with just a small white star.  He carries his head very high.  I have a pic of him on my new member post.  However, Ramsey is only 4 and I doubt will ever be as well trained as the one you are getting....I'm jealous, but very happy for you.

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Back to the rump high thing, if you look at the feet & then at the top line, it's just the slope of the ground. He looks O.K. to me. As for maybe being pacey, the owner says he racks. Sounds like he has enough experience to know the gaits.

I'm exctied too and love seeing somebody get a great horse!

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WELL, Noellee, you couldn't have picked a nicer looking horse.  It looks like his  shoulder angle and rump angle matches.  Nice strong looking legs with hoof angles to match pasterns.  Head is very attractive with nice shaped ears.  Seems to be put together real nice.  Could be a bad picture (with rider) but looks like he toes out a little in the back but that won't hurt your gait any.  I think that he will be a good dependable horse.  Think you might be pretty happy with him.  I hope that he works out for you!  By the way, you can take turns riding him with your sister, LOL.



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softride wrote: By the way, you can take turns riding him with your sister, LOL.
I am learning much from the observations you all are picking out.  Thanks so much.   My sis is already in love with Rain, my TWH already here.  So I will probably ride Teddy at first to work out how he rides.  It will be fun to switch between the rides and find the one we love the best, but I am guessing we will love them equally.  Rain is an absolutely blast to ride, and when I described Rain's gaits, energy, handling, movements to Teddy's owner, he felt Teddy would be very similar.  It also sounds like Teddy will have Rain's sweet and gentle personality.

When I first got Rain back in November, he would sweep through my barn racking up a storm a little nervous of the confirmed space.  I have a 46'x36' barn, stalls and storage areas on each side and a 12 ft alley with a small corral at one end and a large corral at the other, and a side pen with gates to lead into the pasture.  Morning and evening I let the three geldings in one at a time and each goes to their stall to be feed.  Then I let each out single before turning into the pasture to hang in the barn with me while a muck, feed up water, and so forth out of their stall.  There are big bins of hay for them to eat from alongside the barn alley.  We also take this time to do groundwork, like moving out of my space, backing up if I ask, walking beside me, turns, without touching me, and so forth, and grooming and check overs.  At first Rain was a little confused by this barn freedom and special attention.

Now he loves it.  Sweeps gracefully through the barn alley into the corrals at a graceful walk, careful to move out of my way pushing the wheel barrow.  Will sometimes walk beside me off lead doing the exercises without me asking.  And so sweet.  Drops his head to me and asked for rubs along his forehead and long nose as soon as my tasks are done.     

He has been playing with sister this same way and she has become enchanted with him. 

My QHs are different... River, my 3yr old likes to play the games and hang with me... but is a little "you belong to me first" attitude.  He will often stay in the barn with me even when I give him a chance to go to the pasture. So I usually let him out last.

Now Bo, 10yr QH... he knows we are in love, lol.  He is all business.  "Let's do the game drill perfectly" and then goes and stands at the gate to pasture wasting no more time.  But he is the one that gives me the deepest love eyes first thing every morning with I arrive with feed.  River is bouncing off his front feet with excitement, and Rain waits ever patient for me since his stall is at the end. 

I was working on Teddy's stall today... it is on the opposite side then their stalls, and Rain walked throughout investigating it today... really loved it.  He may claim it and I'll have to give Teddy his old stall.  The new stall is bigger, but no window opening.  I guess I will put the biggest one in there, and it might be Rain. 

One more week to go... or getting close to it!  I cannot thank everyone emough for your suggestions and tips and insights.

 

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River is bouncing off his front feet with excitement, and Rain waits ever patient for me since his stall is at the end. 

I had a youngster who would do that - stood just out of my space and hopped up and down until the feed was in his bin and I told him "ok".  Hadn't thought of him for a while - thanks for the memories. 

I surely can't wait to see pictures and here the newest Teddy/Rain/River & Bo stories. 



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Noelle, horses can be so theraputic and I am thrilled for your sister that she's getting back to enjoying and riding them with you.  My DH has a female cousin who's been through too many family tragedies that I won't go into, but lost a daughter at age 14 and has found comfort in riding and owning a horse.  The change in her is miraculous and I am so hopeful this will be the same for your sister. 

It takes a trusting person and one willing to take a little risk to bring home a horse without seeing and riding it firsthand, but much in life is a risk, so congratulations on taking this one.

Best of luck and can't wait to see and hear all about this new guy.  He sounds wonderful and sure hope he is all you are expecting him to be. 



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karenlexsc wrote: Noelle, horses can be so theraputic and I am thrilled for your sister that she's getting back to enjoying and riding them with you.  My DH has a female cousin who's been through too many family tragedies that I won't go into, but lost a daughter at age 14 and has found comfort in riding and owning a horse.  The change in her is miraculous and I am so hopeful this will be the same for your sister. 



Karenlexsc, I have come to realize horses are master teachers of navigating us through emotions.  To depress an emotional state, and not ride through its moment, only makes us numb or anxious to life's experiences.  I believe a horse is one of those rare creatures able to share telepathically with us how to ride an emotion with acceptance, and then live fully into the next moment. 

In a wild herd, the horse is emotionally stable, even though fight or flight will sometimes arise, there is immediate calmness as the herd regroups.  It is when we separate the horse from its herd, and we are its herd, that the horse once again needs to travel its own path to find emotional stability because that is who it is, and hence a return to its natural spirit.  But that is when the bond forms, the gift between horse and human because we share this path now by our choice. 

When I enter into the pasture or barn and I am there with my horses, every emotion hindering me falls away and does not exist.  I am simply breathing in the good feeling of being with them.  And when we ride, if we come across flight or fight occurances, we ride it together and we regroup together.  And it teaches me that life is now, moment by moment, and it teaches the horse I understand. 

That is really all my horse needs from me... It took me a journey to get here.  I am sure so many of us know this too.

I am drawn to Teddy... "risk" is my "faith".  But out of this faith is the foundation that I acknowledge I am by no means an expert horse trainer, lol.  So faith will not send me a horse that is more than I can bear. 

LOL, the horse teaches me about spirtuality than I could have learned any other way.

 

 

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