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 Posted: Thu Oct 23rd, 2008 04:20 am
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SusieQ
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Well Hello Heather nice meeting you here. When did you horse Digger win a Reserve World Championship? The spring warn up in Decatur is just a spring show not a World Celebration. They do not have two World Championship shows a year. The World Celebration is in Sept. of every year. All the winners & reserve winners of the World Shows are posted at this web page in honor of some great speed racking horses. http://www.freewebs.com/speedrackinghorses/ there are 20 years of winners on this page.

As far as Rowdy being clocked at 51 in was in the back of a pick up truck and Johnny was sitting on his back. It was a big joke. Johnny wrote the article he had put in the Hoof Beats and paid to have it put in the book. There was a article that came out in the Gaited Horse a few years back they took the old film and figure Rowdy was about 26 and he was getting lateral in gait then. Earl my husband knew the old horse and said that was about right, but he said he was on of the smoothest horses you could ever ride. In his day he was one fast little horse. You can't take nothing away from that horse he was a good one.

Heather has a beautiful horse but he is not 25 mph. She tried to follow him with a  ATV which will not work. I showed against her in Fl. last year and lapped Digger with my stallion and her horse was cutting the ring 50 ft. and we still lapped him. We where also doing a true single-foot gait. She has hated since we beat her both nights.

Digger is very a beautiful horse, and I mean no disrespect to him. I believe in facts and not half truths.

Here is a video of me riding my horse bareback

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNTwiJZPtyg another video of him showing last year http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NPJT3He028 I've not got his video together for this year, because I'm building a new web page here is my old web page if any one cares to look http://www.speedrackinghorses.com I don't own the best horses in the world be we try, and we show and trail ride and have a great time doing it.

 

I tend to get caught up in the speed that speed horses are suppose to be doing. A horse can not single-foot or raking faster than a race horse. Remember you are riding that horse and hits hitting on one foot at a time. A pacer is hitting on two feet at a time and they are pulling a sulky and the record is 33.8

I have fooled my gps a couple of times, but I knew it was off becaue I can guess usually at what speed my horse is going. The best way to clock a horse is take it to the track and put it on the clock.

 

 

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 Posted: Thu Oct 23rd, 2008 04:25 am
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SageWolf wrote: I went to the USTA site and found that Cambest time trialed at Springfield in 1993 and blazed a world record mile in !:46.1 That's the fastest a standardbred has been clocked.

In 2006 Holburn Hanover won a race at the Meadowlands in 1:46.4. I got out my pencil and figured out that would be about 37 MPH.

Keep in mind this was on a groomed, banked track and with equipment (harness, bike) designed to allow the horse to fly. So a horse could be going faster than 37 MPH during a portion of the race. They dont all go a steady speed. Some horses are front runners and go all out the whole mile. Other horses you can rate and ask them for a "brush" which is a rush of speed.  It is likely that brush could exceed 37 MPH.


So what could a horse with a rider but no cumbersome race bike do on a straightaway with no turns ? I cant beleive 51 - no way - but high thirties sounds doable ! And not having to go a whole mile could really boost the speed.
Cambest record is 33.89 now the record could of been broke since then and this was a time trial.

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On a ending note lots of wonderful gaited Standardbreds have came off the track because they did not make it as a race horse. They had the wrong gait. The Va. Undertaker was no good as a race horse he is a pacer bred Standardbred by the name of The Other Horse, Hot Patches did not make it as a race horse either because all he wanted to do was rack. I don't know Action Jackosn story why he never made it on the track. The Slimps boy horse One Rank Stranger came out of a killer pen and has won Flat Shod Speed WGC & Padded WGC.

I personally don't have but a couple of registered USTA horses one is used for a brood mare the other I just got and is a wonderful gaited 2 year old. My Stallion or Fancy Pants has never seen a race track, but they in fact full standardbreds. I sure am not ashamed to admit what their blood lines are because they are some of the finest money can buy.

Veryone have a blessed day.

 

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I know this is an old post but I just had to throw a few things out there.

1) Susie the horse you are riding bareback is beating you to death and is -NOT- doing a true rack.

2) Yes a horse can achieve "burst speeds" of 50+ mph. It's in the quarter horse books, just do a little research.

3) I like the gravedigger horse and he does it well, but still not as good as the EZD Falcon line. Those horses are just the standard to which all racking horses should aspire, period. And I'm not biased becuase I dont even own one, yet.

4) Those of you who say the "record" for a standabred is yadda yadda yadda pacing so theres "NO WAY A HORSE CAN RACK FASTER" need to realize a couple things. First that speed is an AVERAGE over an entire MILE. When's the last time you racked your horse full out for an entire mile or more? It takes longer than you think. 2nd is the they are pulling a sulky! I know there's not a ton of resistance there but still, a greater speed can be achieved free reigning.

5) Learn how to use a GPS on a horse and it's just fine for measuring speed. If your horse is so rough that its bouncing you around and causing inaccurate readings, or cant maintain a constant speed for a hew hundred yards, then its not doing a rack worth talking about anyway.

6) As someone previously said, tie one arm behind your back, jump on your horse bareback, with a hatler, and turn him loose. If you can even stay on his back at ANY speed above 18mph, then you might have a good racking horse.

It saddens me to see the "speed racking" scene being dominated by glorified pacing horses. The Falcon line has always done it square and right, and there are plenty of standardbreds on the scene now that do it right as well. Reverend Homer, They call me Rusty, Grave Digger, etc are a few who come to mind.

It also saddens me to see championships and shows being won by glorified pacing horses. That's why I like that the SHOBA registration rules state: PROPER FORM MUST NEVER BE SACRIFICED FOR SPEED. Seems pretty logical to me.

The RHBEA shows are all about politics and money. I could care less how many WGC's a horse has won because frankly most of them I see are just broken up standardbreds that are NOT doing it right (not a jab at all standardbreds, just these WGC's I've been seeing lately).

It's not rocket science folks, its a smooth even 1-2-3-4 or it's not. Yes it gets very hard distinguish the sound at very fast speeds, but slow it down. Also watch the video. Just because you can snap a hundred FPS and catch ONE FRAME where the horse has "one foot on the ground" doesn't mean you can call it a true rack. It's a stepping pace on most of these horses, plain and simple. The horse is not reaching under himself and continuing to extend the opposite rear foot. A lot of the Falcon horses will do it right as rain up to the low / mid 20's, and the SMOOTHNESS tells the rest of the story...

 

Sorry, rant over..

Later,

 

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A good example of "doing it right" at speed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enVWjmzta5o

a good example of NOT doing it right at speed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY1UVfYQOTA&playnext_from=TL&videos=W_9v8rdZRS0

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To strengthen the horse's muscles, and perhaps make him the fastest gaiter, this may do the trick. l1

Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKpivyB5rHA&feature=related

 



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LOL, you might be on to something there. l1



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