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 Posted: Mon Apr 26th, 2010 11:07 pm
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Hi Goranbockman
Im from Australia, and there are plenty of ex-racing standardbreds around. Usually you can get them for free or a few hundred to cover the pet food price. So dont be in a hurry to buy as you will get very good contacts eventually and get a well chosen horse so long as you know enough people in the industry. Some people like to see them go to good homes after their racing career. There is a farm that specialises in finding homes for standardbreds near me so if you do decide you want one I can find contacts through them. PM me from this site if you wish.

Almost no-one in Australia is going to know what you are talking about when you want one that racks. That might be the tricky bit.

Since you have to import the horse and fly it in anyway you might be just as well to see about bringing in an Icey exactly as you like rather than chancing a standardbred that might not rack.

I have owned a few standardbreds and they are usually very sensible good horses. One I owned was so naturally smooth gaited (just walk trot canter) that he was ridden by a beginner male bareback.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 26th, 2010 09:04 pm
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I did the actual comparison -

Avg high temp in Manila is ~88 degrees F.  The average high temp in June/July/Aug in San Antonio is ~91 degrees F.

If you are up for getting the clippers out a couple of times per year - it would be do-able! ;-)

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Just one comment for GoranBockman here -

In terms of proper climate for Iceys - I know there is a pretty big group in San Antonio (The Texas Tolters) who use their Iceys all year round.  Usually they need to body clip them, but they seem to get on just fine.  After a season or two, the coat shorten and thin out quite a bit as they adapt. 

There is another gentleman from the southwestern U.S. (New Mexico, I believe) who has 10,000+ miles on his endurance Icey, and has done desert riding, etc. 

In other words, I wouldn't totally discount the possibility of continuing on Iceys. ;-)

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Thanks Whatta for the information and the good wishes. The more I look at pics and descriptions of Standies the more I find similarities to Iceys. I love horses in general, but I have a special spot in my heart reserved for the gaited horses, and the innermost sanctum I reserve for those loyal loving specimen that will go through hell and back for you, so that's the kind I'm seeking. I've been the lucky owner of a few of that kind, who are immortal in my heart, so I'll recognize one when I see it.to1

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I guess we are very lucky to have horses scattered practically everywhere in the country. Anyone looking does not have to look too far. I hope you find your dream horse and at the right price. I think you'll love the Standardbred.

Just don't get a crazy one! This one stole the child!




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goranbockman wrote

..... Btw. what IS a grade horse?

A grade horse is a horse that is cross bred and cannot be papered. However, here in the US, there are some registries that are open to cross bred horses if the horse can qualify by gait. I learned this term by owning quarter horses and it stuck. I imagine I could have found a registry for Taylor if I wanted but I didn't mind that she be 'grade'.



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Rockin H Transport wrote: I know what we do around here is to get to know some of the trainers at the local tracks.  Or your farrier may be a good "go to" point.  A horse that just isn't going to qualify will go cheap and in a lot of cases will make a fine trail racking horse.  Heart?  Did I say heart?  They will take you through the fires of hell and back!

Pacers that need hobbled for training will likely be a good candidate, and I like trotters for a speed racker too, it just all depends on the horse.

But yeah, I like a good STB or STBX.  Great horses.


Sounds like a good idea to get the info, if not from the horses mouth, at least from his trainer's. :D Now given the distance between the US and the Philippines, where I'll be living, and the forbidding cost of transportation, I'll most likely need to get my Standies from Oz (Australia), probably Queensland.

I understand they race pacers there as well; all good American stock, but they all seem to be wearing hobbles there, judging by the pics I've seen. I heard also that some are taken off the tracks for breaking gait (racking?) so that might also be sth. to look out for.t2

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whattarack wrote: Thanks. I hope you find one that fits well with you. I've been blessed to know more good horses than bad. Still my favorite was a fat little grade racking mare named Taylor. In my year of bad luck, she broke her leg the Summer before my accident. I feel at times that God does not intend I own a horse. It does cut to the quick but it is tolerable while I am unable to ride right now anyway.

Taylor is the horse in my avatar. And, of course I will have to dig up a pic of her to share here with you as well. She was a grade horse but I believe she was of rocky mountain/kentucky mountain confirmation.

Oh my god is there no end to ur bad luck?! U're an example of the saying 'If it wasn't for bad luck I wouldn't have any luck at all'. :shock: Taylor looked like a good strong horse with a pliable back. Sorry to hear u can't ride at the moment and here's to hoping u'll be back in the saddle soon!w2 Btw. what IS a grade horse?



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I know what we do around here is to get to know some of the trainers at the local tracks.  Or your farrier may be a good "go to" point.  A horse that just isn't going to qualify will go cheap and in a lot of cases will make a fine trail racking horse.  Heart?  Did I say heart?  They will take you through the fires of hell and back!

Pacers that need hobbled for training will likely be a good candidate, and I like trotters for a speed racker too, it just all depends on the horse.

But yeah, I like a good STB or STBX.  Great horses.

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Here she is. Maybe a grade racking horse will be the ticket for you? She was just over 14h and had a nice rack and foxtrot gait. No pace in her. Very good tempered and level headed. Again, a mare. My husband and I usually will choose a mare over a gelding.




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Thanks. I hope you find one that fits well with you. I've been blessed to know more good horses than bad. Still my favorite was a fat little grade racking mare named Taylor. In my year of bad luck, she broke her leg the Summer before my accident. I feel at times that God does not intend I own a horse. It does cut to the quick but it is tolerable while I am unable to ride right now anyway.

Taylor is the horse in my avatar. And, of course I will have to dig up a pic of her to share here with you as well. She was a grade horse but I believe she was of rocky mountain/kentucky mountain confirmation.



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whattarack wrote: This is Mata Star, I think he was 16 or 18yrs at the time. Do you see similarities in the Standardbred gaits and the Icey gaits?



Far as I can see they're doing the same gait, Toelt, only with the head carried a little lower on ur standie here.



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Thanks for sharing that. I can't wait to find that friend 4 life!:D



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That's a beautiful Standie u go there. Hope I can find something like that!!s5



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Good to hear u love them so. Too many of them go unloved and unwanted to the doggers. So sorry to hear of ur accident though and having to put down ur horse. That must have cut u to the quick! :(



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This is Mata Star, I think he was 16 or 18yrs at the time. Do you see similarities in the Standardbred gaits and the Icey gaits?




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This is Rock. I think he was 3yr old in this pic. Standardbred.



 



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Whatta, that is a pretty picture.

Goran. I don't know much about riding a pacer, but I rode a trotter off the track Standardbred for 20 years.  He could out walk most every horse I ever rode with.  He was kind, always went an extra mile and would do anything you asked.   I rode him on a drill team, rode in parades, horse camped often, did an endurance ride once and he was used in 4-H.   He was smooth the faster you trotted!  He is retired now and living a good life at 26 years old.  If they are raised right and gentle like any other horse, you will find a friend for life.

 



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Same horse as a 3yr old.




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Here was the last time I rode her.




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